On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:02 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> Wonderful then,
> 
> I am sorry that I got caught up with D&D and all that malarkey before,
> forgetting to look at the best way to get the job done with the tool.
> 
> Best of luck with your work
> 
> Drew


Wait-- give me a hint at least, what is the procedure for bringing this
CSV file into linux OO Base? 

Is it a copy and paste? If so, into what window?
Is there an import wizard for it?

--not sure what you mean by D&D, what you have taught me so far has been
invaluable.

Swarup



> 
> On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 14:00 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > OK- good, CSV is a good enough choice.
> > >
> > > The real question now is. Just how similar are those different MSA
> > > database tables.
> >
> > Actually, the job is going to be simpler than you think. I only have one
> > table in the database. It is a largish table--in comparison with most of
> > what I do in a database--as it has around 5000 rows.
> >
> > The table is an address list. Each row represents a recipient of our
> > newsletter, i.e. an addressee. And there are around 25 columns. The
> > columns are mostly of type text, but there are several columns which are
> > of type date, and there are some boolean columns as well.
> >
> > There are several queries that I use with that table, but those I can
> > deal with afterward. I will either bring the queries in using the SQL
> > export you pointed out to me if it works smoothly, or I'll recreate the
> > queries in base from scratch.
> >
> > > If they are real close in structure then using a linked TEXT table in
> > > your Base file works very well and I can walk you through doing that -
> > > the actual HSQLdb manual gives you the syntax and there are a some
> > > good examples of using Base with it. Speaking of which you don't read
> > > French by any chance do you?
> >
> > I don't read French well enough to learn from a technical document,
> > unfortunately. But then, I don't think I'll be needing to set up the
> > sort of technical linked Text table to which you refer.
> >
> > Swarup
> >
> >
> > > On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 08:53 -0600, Tim wrote:
> > > > > text/csv is usually the best bet.  It can usually be imported into any
> > > > > db.  If you decide to use postgresql, I can probably help.  I have 
> > > > > been
> > > > > importing text/csv files into postresql a lot lately.  I use 
> > > > > postgresql
> > > > > and OOo on both WinXP and Ubuntu linux.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you. That would be great.
> > > >
> > > > I'll use whatever you think best.
> > > >
> > > > I just went into the MSA file in Windows, selected the table I want to
> > > > export, and exported it as type "Text Files". I selected "comma" as the
> > > > separator, and the export went fine. It is now a "Text Document" sitting
> > > > on my XP desktop.
> > > >
> > > > So if I now boot up into Ubuntu and open OO Base, then what will be the
> > > > procedure for bringing this table into Base from my XP desktop?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Swarup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dinbandhu wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 10:17 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > > >> Swarup,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> WOW
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> You have Access 2003, correct.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Start Access and open your file.
> > > > > >> File > Export
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Pick some file based export.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Export your data.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have MS Access 2000.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I open my file, and go to File > Export, there are a variety of
> > > > > > options as you know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You said it should be "file based".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There in the options list, I see:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Text Files
> > > > > > Rich Text Format
> > > > > > ODBC Databases
> > > > > > HTML Documents
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would any of the above be good?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once I do the above export, then to bring it into Linux OO Base 
> > > > > > will I
> > > > > > be doing a copy and paste, or is it instead an actual "import"
> > > > > > procedure? Will it involve the "connect to an existing database" 
> > > > > > option
> > > > > > in Base?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Swarup
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >>> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:34 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > > >>>> Hi Swarup,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Yes, the same people that asked you to upgrade are now telling 
> > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > >>>> that after doing so the option is no longer available to do what 
> > > > > >>>> it is
> > > > > >>>> you actually wanted to do, in the way you actually wanted to do 
> > > > > >>>> it.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I was one of those people and I apologize.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> What Mechtilde means, I think, is that since OO.org is free you 
> > > > > >>>> could
> > > > > >>>> always put a copy under windows, migrate your data to Base 
> > > > > >>>> there, then
> > > > > >>>> copy the Base file from the XP formatted partition to the Linux
> > > > > >>>> formatted partition.
> > > > > >>> As Mechtilde has just explained, he actually refers to an 
> > > > > >>> external HSQL
> > > > > >>> DB, rather than the internal one. He recommended MySQL or 
> > > > > >>> Postgresql or
> > > > > >>> Oracle.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> So what would be the best, simplest, most straight forward way of
> > > > > >>> proceeding here? My databases are not complex, I just need to 
> > > > > >>> import
> > > > > >>> them in some simple clean way. I could easily download and 
> > > > > >>> install the
> > > > > >>> OO 2.3 for Windows if that works well. Or I could try using one 
> > > > > >>> of the
> > > > > >>> external HSQL formats if someone explains how it is done (or if 
> > > > > >>> there is
> > > > > >>> a good HowTo somewhere).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Or failing all that, I will just have to install OO 2.2 on the 
> > > > > >>> computer.
> > > > > >>> If nothing else, I know quite well at this point how to do the 
> > > > > >>> import
> > > > > >>> that way. I could do all my imports using OO 2.2, then when 
> > > > > >>> they're
> > > > > >>> imported, replace 2.2 with 2.3 so I can use 2.3's Forms Wizard. 
> > > > > >>> This is
> > > > > >>> a bit of a convoluted approach, but I least I now how to do it.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I would rather use either Windows OO 2.3 or an external HSQL DB 
> > > > > >>> if they
> > > > > >>> would work well and there is some clear explanation available as 
> > > > > >>> to how
> > > > > >>> to do it.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thank you,
> > > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > > >>> Swarup
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:22 +0200, Mechtilde wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>> Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany schrieb:
> > > > > >>>>>>> Hello Swarup,
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> I am trying to "connect to an existing database" using OO 
> > > > > >>>>>>>> 2.3 Base
> > > > > >>>>>>>> (OS=Linux Ubuntu). The existing database is an MSA database 
> > > > > >>>>>>>> in my
> > > > > >>>>>>>> windows partition.
> > > > > >>>>>>> Debian-based distributions contained an experimental 
> > > > > >>>>>>> Linux-driver for
> > > > > >>>>>>> .mdb files, but this driver has been removed in their 2.3 
> > > > > >>>>>>> version.
> > > > > >>>>>>> Which, as sorry as this might be, is correct as the driver 
> > > > > >>>>>>> was pretty
> > > > > >>>>>>> flawed and effectively a danger to your data.
> > > > > >>>>>> I can confirm this. You can do the connection under Windows to 
> > > > > >>>>>> migrate
> > > > > >>>>>> your database to a free (as freespeech) database management 
> > > > > >>>>>> system.
> > > > > >>>>> Could you explain a little more? What do I need to do to import 
> > > > > >>>>> my MSA
> > > > > >>>>> files. To what free database management system do you refer?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>> Swarup
> > > > > >>>>>
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