On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 12:44 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> Swarup,
>
> Sorry, you got lost in the switches there.
>
> I think I mentioned this before, but if not.
>
> http://www.oooforumorg.org
>
> Go to the Base section and post a question
> How to import CSV file to Base
>
> There are currently three individuals working that board that I
> guarantee will get you up and running.
Alright, I'll try that. Thank you.
When I first started my Base queries I had gone there-- but you were the
only one who replied to me there. And you wrote that you weren't going
to be replying any more there, and I should join the [dba-users] list
and post my query there. That is why I came over to this list.
Swarup
> On 9/27/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If this is not the right forum for solving the issues I face, please
> > refer me to the right one and I'll certainly take my queries there.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Swarup
> >
> > On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 09:32 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:18 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > Well, if all you really want to do is query it.
> > > >
> > > > Copy it to a directory within your Linux partition ( not absolutely
> > > > necessary )
> > > > From OO.org create a new Base file.
> > > > Instead of a default type select 'Connect to existing database..' and
> > > > select TEXT from the drop down listbox.
> > > >
> > > > Follow the instructions and where asked for select the directory where
> > > > the file is located.
> > > >
> > > > When you open the Base file the file will appear as a table.
> > > >
> > > > If you need to edit the data it is a little different.
> > >
> > > I have tried this several times, but what I get when I open the Base
> > > file and click on "table", is not a table but rather that text file with
> > > all the fields separated by commas.
> > >
> > > When I select 'Connect to existing databse...' and select "TEXT" from
> > > the drop down listbox, then in the next window it asks whether the file
> > > is of type "text (.txt)", or "CSV (.csv)". There, if I select "text"
> > > then I get the result described above. And if I select "csv" then the
> > > database is created with nothing in it.
> > >
> > > The file which I export from MS Access does have as its suffix, ".txt".
> > >
> > > In the MSA export window, there is no "csv" option as such. There is
> > > only "txt". In the MSA export wizard, you select to export as "Text
> > > Files". Then in the next window it asks you whether you want the export
> > > format as "Delimited (Characters such as comma separate each field)", or
> > > "Fixed width (Fields are aligned in columns with spaces between each
> > > field)". I selected "Delimited". Then it asks to choose the delimiter
> > > that will separate the fields-- so I selected "comma". And the "Text
> > > qualifier", I let remain as the default ("). Having selected these
> > > parameters, the file is then exported as type ".txt". So I could not
> > > figure any way for it to export with type ".csv".
> > >
> > > Have I made some error in the above-described process?
> > >
> > > Swarup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:02 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > > > Wonderful then,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am sorry that I got caught up with D&D and all that malarkey
> > > > > > before,
> > > > > > forgetting to look at the best way to get the job done with the
> > > > > > tool.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best of luck with your work
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Drew
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Wait-- give me a hint at least, what is the procedure for bringing
> > > > > this
> > > > > CSV file into linux OO Base?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it a copy and paste? If so, into what window?
> > > > > Is there an import wizard for it?
> > > > >
> > > > > --not sure what you mean by D&D, what you have taught me so far has
> > > > > been
> > > > > invaluable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Swarup
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 14:00 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > > > > > OK- good, CSV is a good enough choice.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The real question now is. Just how similar are those different
> > > > > > > > MSA
> > > > > > > > database tables.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually, the job is going to be simpler than you think. I only
> > > > > > > have one
> > > > > > > table in the database. It is a largish table--in comparison with
> > > > > > > most of
> > > > > > > what I do in a database--as it has around 5000 rows.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The table is an address list. Each row represents a recipient of
> > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > newsletter, i.e. an addressee. And there are around 25 columns.
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > columns are mostly of type text, but there are several columns
> > > > > > > which are
> > > > > > > of type date, and there are some boolean columns as well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are several queries that I use with that table, but those I
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > deal with afterward. I will either bring the queries in using the
> > > > > > > SQL
> > > > > > > export you pointed out to me if it works smoothly, or I'll
> > > > > > > recreate the
> > > > > > > queries in base from scratch.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If they are real close in structure then using a linked TEXT
> > > > > > > > table in
> > > > > > > > your Base file works very well and I can walk you through doing
> > > > > > > > that -
> > > > > > > > the actual HSQLdb manual gives you the syntax and there are a
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > good examples of using Base with it. Speaking of which you
> > > > > > > > don't read
> > > > > > > > French by any chance do you?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't read French well enough to learn from a technical
> > > > > > > document,
> > > > > > > unfortunately. But then, I don't think I'll be needing to set up
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > sort of technical linked Text table to which you refer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Swarup
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 08:53 -0600, Tim wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > text/csv is usually the best bet. It can usually be
> > > > > > > > > > imported into any
> > > > > > > > > > db. If you decide to use postgresql, I can probably help.
> > > > > > > > > > I have been
> > > > > > > > > > importing text/csv files into postresql a lot lately. I
> > > > > > > > > > use postgresql
> > > > > > > > > > and OOo on both WinXP and Ubuntu linux.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you. That would be great.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'll use whatever you think best.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I just went into the MSA file in Windows, selected the table
> > > > > > > > > I want to
> > > > > > > > > export, and exported it as type "Text Files". I selected
> > > > > > > > > "comma" as the
> > > > > > > > > separator, and the export went fine. It is now a "Text
> > > > > > > > > Document" sitting
> > > > > > > > > on my XP desktop.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So if I now boot up into Ubuntu and open OO Base, then what
> > > > > > > > > will be the
> > > > > > > > > procedure for bringing this table into Base from my XP
> > > > > > > > > desktop?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > Swarup
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Dinbandhu wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 10:17 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> Swarup,
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> WOW
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> You have Access 2003, correct.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Start Access and open your file.
> > > > > > > > > > >> File > Export
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Pick some file based export.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Export your data.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have MS Access 2000.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > When I open my file, and go to File > Export, there are a
> > > > > > > > > > > variety of
> > > > > > > > > > > options as you know.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You said it should be "file based".
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > There in the options list, I see:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Text Files
> > > > > > > > > > > Rich Text Format
> > > > > > > > > > > ODBC Databases
> > > > > > > > > > > HTML Documents
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Would any of the above be good?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Once I do the above export, then to bring it into Linux
> > > > > > > > > > > OO Base will I
> > > > > > > > > > > be doing a copy and paste, or is it instead an actual
> > > > > > > > > > > "import"
> > > > > > > > > > > procedure? Will it involve the "connect to an existing
> > > > > > > > > > > database" option
> > > > > > > > > > > in Base?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > Swarup
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:34 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Hi Swarup,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Yes, the same people that asked you to upgrade are now
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> telling you
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> that after doing so the option is no longer available
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> to do what it is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> you actually wanted to do, in the way you actually
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> wanted to do it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> I was one of those people and I apologize.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> What Mechtilde means, I think, is that since OO.org is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> free you could
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> always put a copy under windows, migrate your data to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Base there, then
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> copy the Base file from the XP formatted partition to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> the Linux
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> formatted partition.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> As Mechtilde has just explained, he actually refers to
> > > > > > > > > > >>> an external HSQL
> > > > > > > > > > >>> DB, rather than the internal one. He recommended MySQL
> > > > > > > > > > >>> or Postgresql or
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Oracle.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> So what would be the best, simplest, most straight
> > > > > > > > > > >>> forward way of
> > > > > > > > > > >>> proceeding here? My databases are not complex, I just
> > > > > > > > > > >>> need to import
> > > > > > > > > > >>> them in some simple clean way. I could easily download
> > > > > > > > > > >>> and install the
> > > > > > > > > > >>> OO 2.3 for Windows if that works well. Or I could try
> > > > > > > > > > >>> using one of the
> > > > > > > > > > >>> external HSQL formats if someone explains how it is
> > > > > > > > > > >>> done (or if there is
> > > > > > > > > > >>> a good HowTo somewhere).
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Or failing all that, I will just have to install OO 2.2
> > > > > > > > > > >>> on the computer.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> If nothing else, I know quite well at this point how to
> > > > > > > > > > >>> do the import
> > > > > > > > > > >>> that way. I could do all my imports using OO 2.2, then
> > > > > > > > > > >>> when they're
> > > > > > > > > > >>> imported, replace 2.2 with 2.3 so I can use 2.3's Forms
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Wizard. This is
> > > > > > > > > > >>> a bit of a convoluted approach, but I least I now how
> > > > > > > > > > >>> to do it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> I would rather use either Windows OO 2.3 or an external
> > > > > > > > > > >>> HSQL DB if they
> > > > > > > > > > >>> would work well and there is some clear explanation
> > > > > > > > > > >>> available as to how
> > > > > > > > > > >>> to do it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you,
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Swarup
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:22 +0200, Mechtilde wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany schrieb:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hello Swarup,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I am trying to "connect to an existing database"
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> using OO 2.3 Base
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (OS=Linux Ubuntu). The existing database is an MSA
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> database in my
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> windows partition.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Debian-based distributions contained an
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> experimental Linux-driver for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> .mdb files, but this driver has been removed in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> their 2.3 version.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Which, as sorry as this might be, is correct as the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> driver was pretty
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> flawed and effectively a danger to your data.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I can confirm this. You can do the connection under
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Windows to migrate
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> your database to a free (as freespeech) database
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> management system.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Could you explain a little more? What do I need to do
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> to import my MSA
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> files. To what free database management system do you
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> refer?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Swarup
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