On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:18 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> Well, if all you really want to do is query it.
> 
> Copy it to a directory within your Linux partition ( not absolutely necessary 
> )
> From OO.org create a new Base file.
> Instead of a default type select 'Connect to existing database..' and
> select TEXT from the drop down listbox.
> 
> Follow the instructions and where asked for select the directory where
> the file is located.
> 
> When you open the Base file the file will appear as a table.

Wonderful! That sounds very do-able.

Thank you so much. I didn't realize it could be so simple. 

Such a complex process I went through to manage the import via Calc in
OO 2.2. Is the result going to be the same as what I did there, insofar
as it being a standard Base table?

> If you need to edit the data it is a little different.

I will be needing to add new rows to the table. And on occasion I will
need to change some data in the pre-existing rows. Is that going to be
do-able? If you could just explain briefly what you mean by "a little
different".

Many thanks,
Swarup


> 
> Drew
> 
> On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:02 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > Wonderful then,
> > >
> > > I am sorry that I got caught up with D&D and all that malarkey before,
> > > forgetting to look at the best way to get the job done with the tool.
> > >
> > > Best of luck with your work
> > >
> > > Drew
> >
> >
> > Wait-- give me a hint at least, what is the procedure for bringing this
> > CSV file into linux OO Base?
> >
> > Is it a copy and paste? If so, into what window?
> > Is there an import wizard for it?
> >
> > --not sure what you mean by D&D, what you have taught me so far has been
> > invaluable.
> >
> > Swarup
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 14:00 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > > OK- good, CSV is a good enough choice.
> > > > >
> > > > > The real question now is. Just how similar are those different MSA
> > > > > database tables.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, the job is going to be simpler than you think. I only have one
> > > > table in the database. It is a largish table--in comparison with most of
> > > > what I do in a database--as it has around 5000 rows.
> > > >
> > > > The table is an address list. Each row represents a recipient of our
> > > > newsletter, i.e. an addressee. And there are around 25 columns. The
> > > > columns are mostly of type text, but there are several columns which are
> > > > of type date, and there are some boolean columns as well.
> > > >
> > > > There are several queries that I use with that table, but those I can
> > > > deal with afterward. I will either bring the queries in using the SQL
> > > > export you pointed out to me if it works smoothly, or I'll recreate the
> > > > queries in base from scratch.
> > > >
> > > > > If they are real close in structure then using a linked TEXT table in
> > > > > your Base file works very well and I can walk you through doing that -
> > > > > the actual HSQLdb manual gives you the syntax and there are a some
> > > > > good examples of using Base with it. Speaking of which you don't read
> > > > > French by any chance do you?
> > > >
> > > > I don't read French well enough to learn from a technical document,
> > > > unfortunately. But then, I don't think I'll be needing to set up the
> > > > sort of technical linked Text table to which you refer.
> > > >
> > > > Swarup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 08:53 -0600, Tim wrote:
> > > > > > > text/csv is usually the best bet.  It can usually be imported 
> > > > > > > into any
> > > > > > > db.  If you decide to use postgresql, I can probably help.  I 
> > > > > > > have been
> > > > > > > importing text/csv files into postresql a lot lately.  I use 
> > > > > > > postgresql
> > > > > > > and OOo on both WinXP and Ubuntu linux.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you. That would be great.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll use whatever you think best.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just went into the MSA file in Windows, selected the table I want 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > export, and exported it as type "Text Files". I selected "comma" as 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > separator, and the export went fine. It is now a "Text Document" 
> > > > > > sitting
> > > > > > on my XP desktop.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So if I now boot up into Ubuntu and open OO Base, then what will be 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > procedure for bringing this table into Base from my XP desktop?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Swarup
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dinbandhu wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 10:17 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Swarup,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> WOW
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> You have Access 2003, correct.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Start Access and open your file.
> > > > > > > >> File > Export
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Pick some file based export.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Export your data.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have MS Access 2000.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When I open my file, and go to File > Export, there are a 
> > > > > > > > variety of
> > > > > > > > options as you know.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You said it should be "file based".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There in the options list, I see:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Text Files
> > > > > > > > Rich Text Format
> > > > > > > > ODBC Databases
> > > > > > > > HTML Documents
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would any of the above be good?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Once I do the above export, then to bring it into Linux OO Base 
> > > > > > > > will I
> > > > > > > > be doing a copy and paste, or is it instead an actual "import"
> > > > > > > > procedure? Will it involve the "connect to an existing 
> > > > > > > > database" option
> > > > > > > > in Base?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Swarup
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:34 -0400, Andrew Jensen wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Swarup,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Yes, the same people that asked you to upgrade are now 
> > > > > > > >>>> telling you
> > > > > > > >>>> that after doing so the option is no longer available to do 
> > > > > > > >>>> what it is
> > > > > > > >>>> you actually wanted to do, in the way you actually wanted to 
> > > > > > > >>>> do it.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> I was one of those people and I apologize.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> What Mechtilde means, I think, is that since OO.org is free 
> > > > > > > >>>> you could
> > > > > > > >>>> always put a copy under windows, migrate your data to Base 
> > > > > > > >>>> there, then
> > > > > > > >>>> copy the Base file from the XP formatted partition to the 
> > > > > > > >>>> Linux
> > > > > > > >>>> formatted partition.
> > > > > > > >>> As Mechtilde has just explained, he actually refers to an 
> > > > > > > >>> external HSQL
> > > > > > > >>> DB, rather than the internal one. He recommended MySQL or 
> > > > > > > >>> Postgresql or
> > > > > > > >>> Oracle.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> So what would be the best, simplest, most straight forward 
> > > > > > > >>> way of
> > > > > > > >>> proceeding here? My databases are not complex, I just need to 
> > > > > > > >>> import
> > > > > > > >>> them in some simple clean way. I could easily download and 
> > > > > > > >>> install the
> > > > > > > >>> OO 2.3 for Windows if that works well. Or I could try using 
> > > > > > > >>> one of the
> > > > > > > >>> external HSQL formats if someone explains how it is done (or 
> > > > > > > >>> if there is
> > > > > > > >>> a good HowTo somewhere).
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Or failing all that, I will just have to install OO 2.2 on 
> > > > > > > >>> the computer.
> > > > > > > >>> If nothing else, I know quite well at this point how to do 
> > > > > > > >>> the import
> > > > > > > >>> that way. I could do all my imports using OO 2.2, then when 
> > > > > > > >>> they're
> > > > > > > >>> imported, replace 2.2 with 2.3 so I can use 2.3's Forms 
> > > > > > > >>> Wizard. This is
> > > > > > > >>> a bit of a convoluted approach, but I least I now how to do 
> > > > > > > >>> it.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I would rather use either Windows OO 2.3 or an external HSQL 
> > > > > > > >>> DB if they
> > > > > > > >>> would work well and there is some clear explanation available 
> > > > > > > >>> as to how
> > > > > > > >>> to do it.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Thank you,
> > > > > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > > > > >>> Swarup
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On 9/25/07, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:22 +0200, Mechtilde wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany schrieb:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hello Swarup,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I am trying to "connect to an existing database" using 
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> OO 2.3 Base
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (OS=Linux Ubuntu). The existing database is an MSA 
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> database in my
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> windows partition.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Debian-based distributions contained an experimental 
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Linux-driver for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> .mdb files, but this driver has been removed in their 2.3 
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> version.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Which, as sorry as this might be, is correct as the 
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> driver was pretty
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> flawed and effectively a danger to your data.
> > > > > > > >>>>>> I can confirm this. You can do the connection under 
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Windows to migrate
> > > > > > > >>>>>> your database to a free (as freespeech) database 
> > > > > > > >>>>>> management system.
> > > > > > > >>>>> Could you explain a little more? What do I need to do to 
> > > > > > > >>>>> import my MSA
> > > > > > > >>>>> files. To what free database management system do you refer?
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>>> Swarup
> > > > > > > >>>>>
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