This might not really be appropriate for the list, but I'm curious
nonetheless.
Has anyone considered a commercial entity to front the Open Source
project, or at least discussed the potential? I'm only really asking
this because I know ALL of the "players" are doing something with OSGi
these days. Or, is the intent to keep Felix pure. And, if I'm out-of-
line for asking this question - sorry.
Brad, I'm assuming you are talking about Eclipse integration, as in
for use as an editor - not developing a things for Eclipse (which
might preclude Equinox), right? What are others doing for IDE
tooling? I've pretty much stuff to my favorite text editor and Maven,
but surely this can't be optimal.
Kit
On Nov 9, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote:
Brad,
I've attached a recent graphic that shows what using eclipse, maven
and osgi feels like to drive.
Can anything be done to tighten up the integration between these
three tools and their communities? With the library development
communities?
I feel your pain, really, but there isn't much that can be done
unless people do it.
For us at Felix, we are not a tools project, but even still we have
tried to help out in that area with maven-bundle-plugin. Our focus
is typically on implementing the spec and/or bundles providing some
functionality.
For me personally, I don't use Eclipse...I use NetBeans as a
glorified programmer's editor, but I build from the command line. I
would happily switch away from Maven if something better came along,
so I don't really want to spend time in this area.
The situation is frankly horrendous for anyone climbing the
learning curve. Some use ant, some use maven, others can't or
won't, yada yada. Some tutorials use one, others use another, and
so forth and so on.
Agreed, but we need people who are interested in these areas to work
on them. We don't have extra manpower sitting around waiting for
assignments.
From my perspective, if you are learning OSGi, your best bet is to
start out with as simple as a set up as you can, which for me would
be the command line and either Ant or Maven and just learn about
OSGi first, without having to try to figure out all of the IDE
integration, which as you know, is less than stellar.
JDOM appears prominently because it seems to be the root of my
problems. Three unpackaged classes throws everything off. But near
as I can tell, they don't even know about the problem since they
don't use maven or osgi.
Yeah, it is difficult, but it is an issue you should take up with
them or see if someone here has solved that issue or look for
different technology. I know that may not be so satisfying, but
sometimes moving to a new technology does provide some bumps along
the way.
Sorry that I cannot give any direct remedy to your issues.
-> richard
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