Thanks, Richard. Just had to get that off my chest.
I'd volunteer to help but I'm so lost right now I'd just get in the way.
I thought eclipse+osgi would be straightforward since they're based on
OSGI. But it now seems they're a bit preoccupied with their own internal
trailer hitches going every which way.
Richard S. Hall wrote:
Brad,
I've attached a recent graphic that shows what using eclipse, maven
and osgi feels like to drive.
Can anything be done to tighten up the integration between these three
tools and their communities? With the library development communities?
I feel your pain, really, but there isn't much that can be done unless
people do it.
For us at Felix, we are not a tools project, but even still we have
tried to help out in that area with maven-bundle-plugin. Our focus is
typically on implementing the spec and/or bundles providing some
functionality.
For me personally, I don't use Eclipse...I use NetBeans as a glorified
programmer's editor, but I build from the command line. I would happily
switch away from Maven if something better came along, so I don't really
want to spend time in this area.
The situation is frankly horrendous for anyone climbing the learning
curve. Some use ant, some use maven, others can't or won't, yada yada.
Some tutorials use one, others use another, and so forth and so on.
Agreed, but we need people who are interested in these areas to work on
them. We don't have extra manpower sitting around waiting for assignments.
From my perspective, if you are learning OSGi, your best bet is to
start out with as simple as a set up as you can, which for me would be
the command line and either Ant or Maven and just learn about OSGi
first, without having to try to figure out all of the IDE integration,
which as you know, is less than stellar.
JDOM appears prominently because it seems to be the root of my
problems. Three unpackaged classes throws everything off. But near as
I can tell, they don't even know about the problem since they don't
use maven or osgi.
Yeah, it is difficult, but it is an issue you should take up with them
or see if someone here has solved that issue or look for different
technology. I know that may not be so satisfying, but sometimes moving
to a new technology does provide some bumps along the way.
Sorry that I cannot give any direct remedy to your issues.
-> richard
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