this post is getting very interesting On 6 August 2011 17:13, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi :) > Yes, hence the use of TCO (=Total Cost of Ownership). > > Macs usually have a much lower TCO than MS because systems are less prone > to > malware and need less maintenance. Also they are a status symbol so who > cares > if it actually works or not? > > TCO is not just licensing and re-training costs but includes a ton of > other > factors. Such as time taken to roll it out across a large number of > computers > along with patches, updates, settings. New or updated Support Contracts > or > in-house IT Staff training. > > > Of course OpenSource can usually mitigate against the re-training costs by > allowing products to be installed alongside existing & competing ones > allowing > migration in a series of steps > 1. Old system is kept as default so people can play with the newer one and > slowly get used to it. Training for a percentage of staff in rotation. > Roll-out can be done over a period of time. Compatibility checks. > > 2. Newer system is made default but older one is still available, just > more > difficult to get at. Follow-up training. Again this switch can be > staggered > across the organisation rather than all-at-once. > > 3. Older system stops being installed on newer or refurbished machines. > > Costs will be higher, particularly in the 1st stage which can push people > into > rushing it which ramps the costs up even more. Imo the 2nd stage is the > one > worth giving the most time to. The first stage needs a fair fraction of > that > time just to make sure things will work and that there are enough trained > people > to help colleagues if there is trouble but it's only at the 2nd stage where > people will really take it seriously or even notice it at all. > > > Elected governments are seldom interested in longer term results. They > need > fast results in order to get re-elected. It's tricky to get a longer-term > view > without compromising important values. The Uk attempts it reasonably well > but > it's far from perfect. Anyway the only relevance that sort of thinking has > is > on how to set-up our own BoD and i think that's better discussed on a > different > list. > > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > ________________________________ > From: planas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 6 August, 2011 4:25:14 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House > > On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 20:53 +0000, toki wrote: > > > On 08/05/2011 05:57 PM, upscope wrote: > > > > > our government is looking for big budget cuts. One would be replace > all the > >MS stuff with open source software. > > > > > > If the united states government, or the government of the united kingdom > > ruled today that effective 1 January 2012, only FLOSS may be used by the > > government, and closed source, proprietary software was banned, the > > budget savings would, at the earliest, be visible in 2016, and probably > > not until 2020, or even 2025. This is simply due to the unbreakable > > contracts various software vendors have with those governments. > > Contracts that requires the vendors to be paid, regardless of whether or > > not the product meets the contract specifications, assuming it is > > delivered in the first place. > > > > Long term, FLOSS saves money. Short term, it doesn't save money, and can > > be described as costing money. > > > > jonathon > > -- > > If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. > > > > If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth > > requesting. > > > > DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. > > > > Actually changing to another application/OS, etc will require a learning > curve at the beginning. The advantage that FOSS has is the primary cost > to using is the learning curve in most cases. I think often the actual > costs of switching forget if I switched from LO to KOffice I have a > learning curve, I do not know KOffice so I need to learn its quirks to > become proficient. If a purchase is involved it just adds to the cost. > > Jay Lozier > [email protected] > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Dr soumalya ray <http://drsoumalya.blogspot.com> <[email protected]> MBBS,MD(PGT)C.Medicine,Ex-HousePhysician(Medicine) Skype: som3776 | Twitter: @docbkp <http://twitter.com/docbkp> -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
