Hi :)
+1
Searching is easier in a nice gui package manager such as Synaptic but if you 
have a good guide to follow it's easier to copy&paste stuff.  I would tend to 
use the "--help" command before following anyone's guidance tho uless i'm happy 
to hose the system and reinstall the OS.  For example 

apt-get --help

would reassure me but 

sudo --help 

might have me worried so i would then have to find out more about the advice.  

Which is better?  Command-line or nice gui?  My answer would have to be that i 
prefer each of them for different circumstances and use both reasonably often.  
I prefer using a point&click gui if i can find one reasonably quickly.  
Probably each person has their own preferences and none are wrong.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sun, 22/7/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P <[email protected]> wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 14:44


The key was to find the core fonts package first.

Yes, I see your point with using the terminal for doing the installation of 
packages, but you need to know what those packages are.

Also, if you use a package manager, or the Software Center, you can search for 
the packages and install them from there without needing to get the "spelling" 
of the package correct.  Some people, like me, can have problems typing at 
times.  My fingers do not always work correctly and I rely on my spell checker 
to catch things.  So with a package manager or software center, you do no need 
to worry about typing in a command in the terminal correctly.

Then there are the differences with the desktop environments.  For 12.04 I have 
used Unity, GNOME 3, and MATE for desktop environments.  I prefer MATE.  IT 
works more like the GNOME DE that in used by Ubuntu 10.04, better than the 
options in GNOME 3.

So once the OP knew that he could use a single package to install the "small 
core" of MS fonts, and then know what it is, it is up to the user to decide 
what if the easiest way to install it.  When I search for a package, it is 
easier for me to install it with the package manager or the software center, 
instead of using that info and type the proper commands in the terminal.

IF I am given a terminal command where I can cut/paste [say from a web page or 
an email], then it can be easy for me to use the terminal option.  cut/paste 
was how I "typed in" the commands to install MATE on my 12.04 laptop.

This link that was in a posting
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
was listed as the core fonts for the web.

This list has a few other fonts in their list of MS core fonts for the web.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_fonts_for_the_Web

This link shows which core fonts are on both MS systems and Mac systems.
http://web.nickshanks.com/fonts/microsoft-core-web-fonts

So that means that there many be more "core fonts" that MS Win7 uses that the 
user might want to install.

He seem to state that he did not want to do all the work to install all of the 
fonts he had in his font folder.  Well as far as I an thinking, it is really 
easy to install a block of fonts. All you need to do is place them in a folder, 
highlight them like you we going to copy them to another folder, then just do a 
right-click and open them with the default font viewer.  Then just click on the 
"install" button for each font.  I is an easy way to get them installed 
properly in the .fonts hidden folder.  At least it is the easiest way I found.

The real kicker is for the user, any user, to install the fonts that he/she 
needs for the work he/she need to do.

As stated before, by me and others, you can get free fonts that are very 
similar to the paid ones of a specific name.  All you have to do is look.  BUT, 
if that person is required to work with a specific font for an employer, or 
other person of authority, then they will have to see if they have those fonts 
somewhere that they can use for their Ubuntu/Linux work instead of Windows work.

When I take a laptop/desktop and replace the Windows OS that came with it, I 
copy the fonts that came with the system and then reinstall them when I have 
Ubuntu installed.  That way, I use the fonts that came with the computer.  
Personally, I feel that if the laptop has the fonts installed, then those fonts 
can stay installed on the system no matter what the OS changes to.



On 07/22/2012 08:11 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I found the name for Ubuntu 10.04, so the command would be:
> 
> sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
> 
> and installing Synaptic Package Manager would be:
> 
> sudo apt-get install synaptic
> 
> but i agree with Johnny that it sounds like Ubuntu 12.04 and i suspect he has 
> checked the exactly right name already.  Generally i find Synaptic useful for 
> looking up things when i am not totally sure of the name of the thing.  It 
> searches in package descriptions as well as titles so you can be pretty vague 
> with searches.  Then it's easy to pick and choose (although probably ignore 
> all the packages starting with "lib..." so just scroll through them fast).
> 
> The command-line is easiest when giving advice to people because it's pretty 
> much identical across all the different distros although some 
> families-of-distros use alternatives to apt-get.  I think those alternatives 
> use similar tags and, of course, the package names tend to be the same, for 
> example libreoffice is called the same thing in all afaik.
> 
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From: Johnny Rosenberg <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 12:32
> 
> 2012/7/22 Tom Davies <[email protected]>:
>> Hi :)
>> There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i 
>> think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get 
>> the right fonts
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
> Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
> 12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
> not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
> Synaptic pre-installed.
> 
> Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
> and I think a few fonts were missing as well.
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Johnny Rosenberg
> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
> 
>> 
>> --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Johnny Rosenberg <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04
>> 
>> 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope <[email protected]>:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
>>> After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
>>> on what they would consider to be core fonts.
>>> I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
>>> so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
>>> single one of them!
>> The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
>> the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
>> terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
>> Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:
>> 
>> sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer
>> 
>> The package contains:
>> Andale
>> Arial Black
>> Arial
>> Comic Sans
>> Courier New
>> Georgia
>> Impact
>> Times New Roman
>> Trebuchet
>> Verdana
>> Webdings
>> 
>> If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
>> recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
>> fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
>> Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
>> so on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Johnny Rosenberg
>> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
>> 
>> 
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