[image: Inline image 1] yes, and I think you've just described the 'Gates' fiasco' [image: Inline image 2]
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: Hi :) > I vaguely remember Norton updated their virus-definitions on Thursdays so > i would schedule a look-for-updates for Fridays. Of course MS do their > updates on Tuesdays (="Patch Tuesday") so Norton/Symantec might have > changed in the last decade or so. > > Of course if either find a particularly nasty problem then they do > sometimes push patches or whatever out on a different day but it's fairly > rare. Of course an ISP might delay updates for a day or 2 so your machine > might regularly get them a day or few later but i think by being regular MS > and others have given ISPs a chance of knowing when they might get spikes > so that those can be planned for easily. > > I still don't get why Windows doesn't have a package-manager that just > updates everything all in one go instead of each different program being > forced to set-up it's own separate method of keeping things up to date. > Also i never had/have confidence in any machine having fully updated > drivers and codecs and everything. Windows appears to be carefully built > to be insecure. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > From: Dan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Rel. 3.6.1 and Norton AntiVirus > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2012, 3:14 > > webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: > > On 08/29/2012 08:21 PM, Dan wrote: > >> Jeff Hahn wrote: > >>> When I try to upgrade from 3.6.0 to 3.6.1 the Norton AntiVirus program > >>> keeps deleting the upgrade as an unsafe virus. This is the first > release > >>> that I have had this type of problem with. Jeff > >>> > >> > >> To make sure I understand: Norton deletes the LO 3.6.1 download > file? > >> Otherwise, you should not have Norton running when you install the > >> upgrade; you should not be physically connected to the Internet either. > >> Disconnect from Internet, turn off anti-virus program, install LO > update, > >> turn on anti-virus program. ONLY WHEN AV IS RUNNING should you reconnect > >> to the Internet. > >> > >> --Dan > >> > > > > This is not the first time I have heard of Norton stating valid install > > files were viruses or other nasties. > > > > I never had any good luck with Norton's AV, so I use the free version of > > Comodo product[s] for my Windows machines. I have hooked even PC repair > > and selling pro's to using it. > > > > As for not having AV running when not online, well that is not what I > would > > tell people. An anti-virus is needed if you are offline and suddenly > there > > is a trojan or other nasty kicking in and doing a number. They can be > > picked up and not cleaned in a few ways other than being online. I have > my > > Ubuntu system picking up new things from files that I have had on my > system > > for months and suddenly it detects something the AV system does not like. > > If I did not have the AV system on 24/7, then those issues might not have > > been picked up. The real thing is that the AV systems update their data > > systems, mostly, after a new "nasty" has been detected. If your system > has > > that "nasty" on it before that nasty has been added to your AV data > system, > > then you will need to have the other parts of the AV and security > system[s] > > on to detect the traces of it trying to work. SO do not turn your > computer > > security off. > > > > I have had to deal with too many systems from friends and clients where > > they did not have their security on 24/7 and kept up-to-date. Had one > > system that the AV was on but not updated in over 2 years and the guy > lost > > a lot. > > Perhaps I was not as clear as I should have been. I listed 5 steps > that have been posted on lists like these when installing OOo. Programs > like Norton will give false positives that prevent installation of a > program. So, the AV program needs to be off when the installation is being > done. However, the AV program should NOT be turned off until AFTER the > computer is physically disconnected from the Internet. The installation > should be done immediately after turning off the AV. The AV should be > turned on again right after finishing the installation. At this point, > verification that the AV is actually working is the next step. If it is > not, steps have to be taken to get the AV working properly before doing > anything else. Once this is done, reconnect to the Internet. My point was > that the computer should not be connected to the Internet until AFTER the > person knows that the AV is already working. > Yes, anyone using an AV should weekly update it, sooner if there is a > notice of an update because of a patch that is needed. > > --Dan > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
