Hi :) There are no quick answers and there are no "one size fits all" answers either.
The only way LO will ever be an easy sell is if everyone else is already using it. In IT diversity and "freedom of choice" is generally seen as a bad thing. It's much easier just to go along with whatever everyone else is using. It's less challenging, less to think about, easier to get your ideas accepted by people paying your wages. It's a bit like bands or fashion or art or wine. How do people decide which is best if they are not experts themselves? How do you find experts that really are experts rather than being salesmen. How do you know when they are giving good advice rather than just fobbing you off with something they think you'll be happy to hear just to get rid of you quickly. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 7/10/12, Pertti Rönnberg <[email protected]> wrote: From: Pertti Rönnberg <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] MS problems To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, 7 October, 2012, 17:28 Dear Wolfgang, I am in no way trying - not even in a a such position - to limit anyone's right to express one's opinions, but >> I wish you will give the same right to others -- we shall respect all >>others >> this list is meant to help LibO and its users - not to humiliate or >>calling names, nor to write irrelevant bullshit So please, don't insinuate but say clearly what you mean - my english is not good enough to understand what you mean at all - nor expressions like "snip". Some posts ago you blamed company managers and called them "IT-illiteral morons" claiming that they do wrong decisions buying MS/MSO programs forcing the company's employees "who do the actual work" to be ineffective. I replied that you are barking at a wrong tree -- that it is the IT stuff, the IT-managers and their knowledge you should blame. Now confirm that by blaming that IT-people - hired as consultants or employed experts " by these "IT-illiteral moron" managers - to be too lazy and ignorant to listen to these workers "who do the actual work". Can you please explain what you really mean - if you happen to know - and provided that it is of any use for this list. Just blaming Microsoft and its programs is not productive, nor is it relevant - it is only negative. If you have a good medicine how to make LibO better and more used it might be of interest if you tell us. And I can assure you with about 25 years own experience that MSAccess - in practice - is not in any way a "pathological data shredder" -- no doubt has all the MS/MSO programs been good enough to beat WP, Lotus 123, Symphony, etc. -- even still better than any open source programs. My hope and intention with these posts of mine is that LibO should be enough better to beat MS/MSO as a market leader. Regards Pertti Rönnberg On 6.10.2012 22:49, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> I think the market share of MSO has nothing to do with the users >> being idiots or not. The 90% share is caused by 3 things > *snip* > >> 2 - Not many people know about alternatives. > That's what I call ignorance. Ignorance plus unwillingness to inform > oneself to remedy that ignorance equals idiocy. > > I don't have anything against idiots, as long as they don't impose > their idiocy onto me. > >> 3 - Many IT departments in companies choose MSO because it is easily >> available and they consider the support as good. > IT departments, just like "managers" "choose" (in fact, they don't > choose at all) MS because it's not them who have to do the actual > work, so they can't have a clue. And because they're too lazy and > ignorant to get some input from the information workers who have to do > the actual work. > >> Keep in mind that introduction of an alternative suit requires a lot >> of testing in an IT department. The suit must be stable and keep >> productivity high. > With MS products, user productivity will be minimised compared to all > available alternatives. > Sincerely, > > Wolfgang > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
