Hi :) Has the issue been resolved well enough? IE8 was discovered to have a large number of extremely serious vulnerabilities around the time of the original posting to the extent that MS released patches outside of their usual "Patch Tuesday" schedule.
Opera is better, faster and safer. Firefox seems to be the most popular web-browser at the moment. It's also faster, safer and better. Gaming sites report something like 80% of on-line gamers at their site use Firefox. Chrome is shed loads faster so i would have expected Gamers to use that more. Generally i would recommend having 2 web-browsers so that if the main one you use goes wonky then you can use the other but i have only ever had problems with IE. All the rest run for years without bumping into problems. However, it might be worth contacting the Websites Team, i think [email protected] to let them know about "Internet Explorer" issue. Of course MS are unhappy about the existence of LibreOffice, OpenOffice and the rest so my guess is that they will start to put resources into scaring people away from their competition. Presumably using tactics similar to the ones that landed them in court over issues such as "The browser wars" (really talking about web-browsers there, not file-browsers or any other sorts of browsers) or the Rtf court case. In both cases they were found guilty and got a slap on the wrist which they shrug off and work-around. We should put some resources into fixing simple things, such as the certificate, if we can but we can't jump at every little piece of FUD they try to throw in our path. They have a large fan-base that seem quite happy to spread all sorts of nonsense without MS being responsible. Bob Power wrote > Works ok in Opera ( but then I have no idea what the settings are there > )... Probably a good plan to stick with Opera. During it's court case against MS a lot of their resources went into the court-case. Now that is over their resources are going to be diverted back into developing their web-browser. My guess is that they might develop fast enough to over-take Firefox in the next few years. It's a good solid web-browser and has the advantage that not so many people use it. Yet. Bob Power wrote > With IE 8 ; > > StartCom is in my trusted root certification authorities list. IE 8 was compromised quite severely at around the time of the posting. MS tried to downplay it and suggested that the average home user or small office was probably safer than the nuclear research facilities that got affected because home users can switch on he MS Firewall. They implied that nuclear facilities probably can't afford a £20 router/firewall or wouldn't have thought of security. Bob Power wrote > I then checked via http://www.digicert.com/help/ ssl certificate checker > and it shows common name LibreOffice.org all ok etc. > > So I suppose it could be IE 8 not knowing what to do with this particular > type of cert - I'm going to switch to FireFox soon So the main organisations behind issuing certificates agree that the LibreOffice ones are legit? It's only MS that are claiming they aren't? Switching away from IE is a great idea. you will probably find you have less security problems and less slow-downs as a result. opera and Firefox are about equal. Firefox is more popular and more widely used at the moment but that is not necessarily a good reason to prefer it to Opera. The main thing is to get away from IE as much as possible. I only use it for updates from microsoft.com, all of which are for "security" problems with MS products. Bob Power wrote > Suggestions ; > 1. > For some users with old stuff like me - XP / IE 8 etc - who are the most > likely to be looking for alternatives to MS Office - this will be > off-putting ( it will scare some people ) - and LibreOffice will lose some > potential converts. People that stick with IE8 are going to find the internet an increasingly dangerous place. MS wants people to buy their new OSes and scaring them into it is a standard salesman tactic. There is even a name for the tactic. LibreOffice/OpenOffice always loses potential new users due to FUD but that doesn't affect TDF's or Apache's profit/loss or income/expenditure. It's only the users that lose out and they might have good reasons to try LO/OO again in a couple of years. There is no need for a hard sell or to force people into 'buying into' something they have been made afraid of. Let them find the problems with MS Office, such as huge costs and poor security, and eventually they will retry alternatives. Bob Power wrote > 2. > Some install notes on the help pack - I installed it but it doesn't show > up unless you change a setting in language settings - I found this with a > web search but it would be better if it was in release notes or something > near the download. The built-in help packs are not as good as the guides https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Unfortunately, due to various misunderstandings and timing issues, the translators teams work at their own version of the English help-packs and then translate that, rather than just translating the Guides. The Documentation Team always needs new people because people quickly become quite knowledgeable in there and soon lose their "noob perspective". Probably best to start as proof-reader or reviewer. Bob Power wrote > One last thing - I'm curious as to why help is over https and not just > http ? ( https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help ) https is more secure than http. It's still flawed but a lot less so than http. The extra "s" stands for secure or security. Are 'older' MS products making it difficult to access https and forcing people into using the less secure protocol? Hmmm, interesting. All the above are my own personal viewpoints and nothing to do with TDF (who keep threatening to remove me from these lists). Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/problem-with-this-website-s-security-certificate-tp4056639p4057453.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
