Thanks Tom!

Gnumeric is a great product and I have used it before. I was hoping to use
Calc in this case because I am trying to learn to use the LO database,
Base, as a stand-alone or a front end for PostgreSQL. But I find it very
hard to define, use, and even just to import a file into a database if I
can not first look at it and determine how missing variables are coded,
which fields are character and which are numeric, etc. Some census products
are really good at giving users this kind of metadata, others not so much.
(The Economic Census metadata is hard enough to read and understand (would
you put material intended to explain something to the public in
pipe-delimited text?) that I have written to them asking for meta-meta
data). So I wanted to use Calc for exploration and base to do the heavy
lifting, in the hope that things might be easier if I stayed withing one
document family. Now I am thinking that some other approach will be easier.

Warmest regards, Andrew


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 2:09 AM, TomD [via Document Foundation Mail Archive]
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> Hi :)
> Try Gnumeric;
> http://www.gnumeric.org/download.html
>
> It's a dedicated spreadsheet program with a tiny footprint that uses
> minimal resources, so it's faster, lighter and more robust than Excel
> or Calc.  Many people find Gnumeric to be better than Calc or Excel
> for serious or hefty spreadsheets and/or for handling many more
> spreadsheets in a shorter time-frame.
>
> It can be installed alongside LibreOffice and/or MS Office.  It uses
> the same format as LibreOffice natively so most spreadsheets can be
> bounced between the 2 programs quite happily.
>
> Part of the advantage of LibreOffice is that it fits well into a wider
> eco-system and co-operates well with a wider range of programs and
> suites allowing you to tailor individual machines to specific
> use-cases and yet still retain the ability to share files between
> different machines and different people using different OSes and
> programs.
>
> Regards from
> Tom )
>
>
>
>
> On 5 April 2014 06:43, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[hidden 
> email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4104190&i=0>>
> wrote:
>
> > On 04/04/2014 07:44 PM, andrewH wrote:
> >>
> >> I am working with a data set that keeps causing my LibreOffice to
> freeze.
> >> I
> >> am pretty sure that this is only because it is big. It is a
> pipe-separated
> >> text from the US Economic Census imported into Calc, about 30 columns
> and
> >> around a million rows. (The actual data set is bigger, but Calc quits
> at a
> >> million-odd. The complete file is about 0.8 gig.) I suspect but can not
> >> prove that this is related to file handling somehow, e.g. breaking down
> >> during auto-saving. The first time I saved the data as a Calc file it
> took
> >> nearly an hour with the "soffice.bin *32" process running at 25 percent
> of
> >> CPU time and using about 825 meg of memory the entire time. (Not sure
> why
> >> this is showing up as a 32-bit version).  And when Calc freezes, all
> the
> >> LibreOffice programs freeze. So I can't just switch to another file and
> >> noodle away while waiting.
> >
> >
> > It looks to me as though Calc cannot handle more than 1048576 rows of
> data,
> >
> > Do you have more rows than that? If yes, then I think that you cannot
> open
> > the file.
> >
> > If you have less than that, and, if you think that you are simply
> running
> > out of memory.... if you can figure out how to get the data to me, I can
> run
> > a test on a 64 bit version (running on Linux). My machine has 32 GB of
> > RAM...
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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