Hi :) i assumed it is a 3rd party database program that contains the tables of data. Base is usually excellent at linking to such external databases. It seems to be the best way of using Base and the default way of using it.
The idea is that Base then performs various functions through SQL code; to sort, filter, concatenate, link and all the rest. All this is done kinda invisibly, or with a view that most normal users couldn't really cope with. Like watching a play from back-stage. Then Calc or Writer get used to produce reports or forms or letters in a user-friendly way. The reports don't contain the data, neither does Base = they are just like looking through different windows into the database tables that are held externally. So, i don't know what R is either. I get the impression that if it is a 3rd party database program it's something hideously mangled = as if produced by a micro-managing, non-expert committee. Regards from Tom :) On 1 May 2014 13:36, Jacqueline Tarleton <jacqueline.tarle...@gmail.com>wrote: > "But I am getting more comfortable with using R itself to answer these..." > > Excuse my ignorance - What is R? > > This particular Thread has provided amazing details on the limitations of > Libre Office Calc, tips, hints, and workarounds- except do not know what is > R. I apologize in advance for not offering a solution. Jackie > On Apr 17, 2014 5:57 PM, "andrewH" <ahoer...@rprogress.org> wrote: > > > Thanks Tom! > > > > Gnumeric is a great product and I have used it before. I was hoping to > use > > Calc in this case because I am trying to learn to use the LO database, > > Base, as a stand-alone or a front end for PostgreSQL. But I find it very > > hard to define, use, and even just to import a file into a database if I > > can not first look at it and determine how missing variables are coded, > > which fields are character and which are numeric, etc. Some census > products > > are really good at giving users this kind of metadata, others not so > much. > > (The Economic Census metadata is hard enough to read and understand > (would > > you put material intended to explain something to the public in > > pipe-delimited text?) that I have written to them asking for meta-meta > > data). So I wanted to use Calc for exploration and base to do the heavy > > lifting, in the hope that things might be easier if I stayed withing one > > document family. Now I am thinking that some other approach will be > easier. > > > > Warmest regards, Andrew > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 2:09 AM, TomD [via Document Foundation Mail > Archive] > > <ml-node+s969070n4104190...@n3.nabble.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi :) > > > Try Gnumeric; > > > http://www.gnumeric.org/download.html > > > > > > It's a dedicated spreadsheet program with a tiny footprint that uses > > > minimal resources, so it's faster, lighter and more robust than Excel > > > or Calc. Many people find Gnumeric to be better than Calc or Excel > > > for serious or hefty spreadsheets and/or for handling many more > > > spreadsheets in a shorter time-frame. > > > > > > It can be installed alongside LibreOffice and/or MS Office. It uses > > > the same format as LibreOffice natively so most spreadsheets can be > > > bounced between the 2 programs quite happily. > > > > > > Part of the advantage of LibreOffice is that it fits well into a wider > > > eco-system and co-operates well with a wider range of programs and > > > suites allowing you to tailor individual machines to specific > > > use-cases and yet still retain the ability to share files between > > > different machines and different people using different OSes and > > > programs. > > > > > > Regards from > > > Tom ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 April 2014 06:43, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[hidden email]< > > http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4104190&i=0>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On 04/04/2014 07:44 PM, andrewH wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I am working with a data set that keeps causing my LibreOffice to > > > freeze. > > > >> I > > > >> am pretty sure that this is only because it is big. It is a > > > pipe-separated > > > >> text from the US Economic Census imported into Calc, about 30 > columns > > > and > > > >> around a million rows. (The actual data set is bigger, but Calc > quits > > > at a > > > >> million-odd. The complete file is about 0.8 gig.) I suspect but can > > not > > > >> prove that this is related to file handling somehow, e.g. breaking > > down > > > >> during auto-saving. The first time I saved the data as a Calc file > it > > > took > > > >> nearly an hour with the "soffice.bin *32" process running at 25 > > percent > > > of > > > >> CPU time and using about 825 meg of memory the entire time. (Not > sure > > > why > > > >> this is showing up as a 32-bit version). And when Calc freezes, all > > > the > > > >> LibreOffice programs freeze. 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