"But I am getting more comfortable with using R itself to answer these..."
Excuse my ignorance - What is R? This particular Thread has provided amazing details on the limitations of Libre Office Calc, tips, hints, and workarounds- except do not know what is R. I apologize in advance for not offering a solution. Jackie On Apr 17, 2014 5:57 PM, "andrewH" <ahoer...@rprogress.org> wrote: > Thanks Tom! > > Gnumeric is a great product and I have used it before. I was hoping to use > Calc in this case because I am trying to learn to use the LO database, > Base, as a stand-alone or a front end for PostgreSQL. But I find it very > hard to define, use, and even just to import a file into a database if I > can not first look at it and determine how missing variables are coded, > which fields are character and which are numeric, etc. Some census products > are really good at giving users this kind of metadata, others not so much. > (The Economic Census metadata is hard enough to read and understand (would > you put material intended to explain something to the public in > pipe-delimited text?) that I have written to them asking for meta-meta > data). So I wanted to use Calc for exploration and base to do the heavy > lifting, in the hope that things might be easier if I stayed withing one > document family. Now I am thinking that some other approach will be easier. > > Warmest regards, Andrew > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 2:09 AM, TomD [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] > <ml-node+s969070n4104190...@n3.nabble.com> wrote: > > > Hi :) > > Try Gnumeric; > > http://www.gnumeric.org/download.html > > > > It's a dedicated spreadsheet program with a tiny footprint that uses > > minimal resources, so it's faster, lighter and more robust than Excel > > or Calc. Many people find Gnumeric to be better than Calc or Excel > > for serious or hefty spreadsheets and/or for handling many more > > spreadsheets in a shorter time-frame. > > > > It can be installed alongside LibreOffice and/or MS Office. It uses > > the same format as LibreOffice natively so most spreadsheets can be > > bounced between the 2 programs quite happily. > > > > Part of the advantage of LibreOffice is that it fits well into a wider > > eco-system and co-operates well with a wider range of programs and > > suites allowing you to tailor individual machines to specific > > use-cases and yet still retain the ability to share files between > > different machines and different people using different OSes and > > programs. > > > > Regards from > > Tom ) > > > > > > > > > > On 5 April 2014 06:43, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[hidden email]< > http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4104190&i=0>> > > wrote: > > > > > On 04/04/2014 07:44 PM, andrewH wrote: > > >> > > >> I am working with a data set that keeps causing my LibreOffice to > > freeze. > > >> I > > >> am pretty sure that this is only because it is big. It is a > > pipe-separated > > >> text from the US Economic Census imported into Calc, about 30 columns > > and > > >> around a million rows. (The actual data set is bigger, but Calc quits > > at a > > >> million-odd. The complete file is about 0.8 gig.) I suspect but can > not > > >> prove that this is related to file handling somehow, e.g. breaking > down > > >> during auto-saving. The first time I saved the data as a Calc file it > > took > > >> nearly an hour with the "soffice.bin *32" process running at 25 > percent > > of > > >> CPU time and using about 825 meg of memory the entire time. (Not sure > > why > > >> this is showing up as a 32-bit version). And when Calc freezes, all > > the > > >> LibreOffice programs freeze. So I can't just switch to another file > and > > >> noodle away while waiting. > > > > > > > > > It looks to me as though Calc cannot handle more than 1048576 rows of > > data, > > > > > > Do you have more rows than that? If yes, then I think that you cannot > > open > > > the file. > > > > > > If you have less than that, and, if you think that you are simply > > running > > > out of memory.... if you can figure out how to get the data to me, I > can > > run > > > a test on a 64 bit version (running on Linux). 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