Thanks.


From: Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML
To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>


Hi :)
Wikipedia is often a good place to get some sort of idea but the important
bit is to use their External Links.

For some of the languages w3schools can be useful but some people say they
tend to teach some bad habits.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 16 November 2014 23:57, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> wrote:

       Wow, from the known to the unknown  ;-)
>
>        Curiously wondering if there's an explanation for all of these
> various codings somewhere;
>             and if so, where?
>
>
>
> From: Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <webmas...@krackedpress.com>
> Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LO Writer to edit HTML
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
> Here is the list of languages that Bluefish's page states it has language
> definitions for.
> Yes there are a lot, but it seems to me that this package is more than a
> HTML creation/modification page editor.
>
>     Ada
>     ASP .NET and VBS
>     C/C++
>     CSS
>     CFML
>     Clojure
>     D
>     gettext PO
>     Google Go
>     HTML, XHTML and HTML5
>     Java and JSP
>     JavaScript and jQuery
>     Lua
>     Octave/MATLAB
>     MediaWiki
>     NSIS
>     Pascal
>     Perl
>     PHP
>     Python
>     R
>     Ruby
>     Shell
>     Scheme
>     SQL
>     SVG
>     Vala
>     Wordpress
>     XML
>
>
>
>
> On 11/14/2014 09:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
>
>  Hi :)
> > I think the coding is to be published in a book / manual / guide.
> Perhaps
> > teaching people the basics or giving appropriate examples.
> >
> > I think Ian was looking for some method to use coding in a document in
> much
> > the same way that Math is used to write equations for documents so that
> the
> > equation can be seen.  We have been trying to push him into using the
> > equivalent of Calc to give the correct answer when he's really looking
> for
> > something to show the equation in all it's intriguing beauty.
> >
> > Bluefish is often recommended and i gather it's a bit like Dreamweaver in
> > having a wysiwyg alongside a coding window/pane.  I only had a brief go
> at
> > both those but they made me feel really uncomfortable.  Real world
> > web-browsers have their own quirks and i'm not sure how faithfully a
> > wysiwyg editor reproduces their errors.  So, i tend to have at least 1
> > web-browser open to see the real-world effect of code that i write (well,
> > mostly copy&paste & modify tbh) in a text-editor.
> >
> >
> > It's interesting to see this thread has forked in 2 directions.  There
> are
> > these sorts of answers on how to write good, reliable code to be used
> > directly and the other fork is about how to make it look pretty for
> print.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15 November 2014 00:27, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
> > webmas...@krackedpress.com> wrote:
> >
> >  I use to "hand code" everything and then check my work in a browser.
> Now
> >> with more complex pages, it can be very hard to keep one edited without
> >> using a WYSIWYG editor.  Yes, I use text editors for some things, but
> >> there
> >> are a lot of things that need the editing while viewing the page, and
> not
> >> just the code.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/14/2014 06:18 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
> >>
> >>  On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Yes, a text editor helps for some editing of an HTML file.  Yet, for
> >>>> some work I need a WYSIWYG editor for the look and feel of the web
> >>>> document.
> >>>>
> >>>> I use Kate [Ubuntu based Linux Mint] for the text editor.  I use it
> for
> >>>> the Find/Replace option to change 91 links from [say] "4.3.3.2_" to
> >>>> "4.3.4.1_".  That takes too much time in a WYSIWYG editor, or at least
> >>>> the
> >>>> ones I have used.
> >>>>
> >>>> Currently I use Kompozer, but when I upgrade from Mint 16 to 17 [14.04
> >>>> based] and beyond, the graphical display methods do not like the
> >>>> upgraded
> >>>> version that Ubuntu 14.04/14.10 now uses.  So I will be looking for a
> >>>> different DEDICATED web page editor.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, Writer can do the HTML editing, but I would prefer a WYSIWYG
> editor
> >>>> that was created specifically for web page editing and hopefully with
> >>>> error
> >>>> checking options.
> >>>>
> >>>>  I haven't followed the thread with great care so I may have
> overlooked
> >>> a
> >>> reference to 'bluefish'. <http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/features.html>
> >>>
> >>> I haven't used it in quite a spell so this isn't a 'recommendation',
> just
> >>> a reference to a tool which might be of use.
> >>>
> >>> it is not, I think, wysiwyg as such but it will open your browser for
> >>> inspection of results. (looking at the website it seems it may open
> your
> >>> page within bluefish but I'm skimming too fast to be sure.)
> >>>
> >>> see what you think.
> >>>
> >>> (apologies if this has already been considered.)
> >>>
> >>> F.
> >>>
> >>>   >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/13/2014 07:29 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  On 11/13/2014 06:39 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Hi Kolbjoern
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for the reply.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The document already exists - so I'm selecting 'File Open', I change
> >>>>>> the File Type to 'HTML Document (Writer)' and select my file. It
> then
> >>>>>> opens
> >>>>>> in "view" mode - So how do I get to the code to edit it??
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I just tried it again, and I think I see your problem. I did
> exactly
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> you did, and the "HTML source" option did not appear on the View
> menu.
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> think the problem is that, when opening the file, you are changing
> the
> >>>>> File
> >>>>> Type to "HTML Document (Writer)." When you do that, all you get is a
> >>>>> WYSIWYG display along with no HTML source option. So, I tried it
> >>>>> again, but
> >>>>> instead of changing the file type to "HTML Document (Writer)" I kept
> >>>>> it at
> >>>>> "All types." Then when I opened an HTML file, I saw the source code
> >>>>> instead
> >>>>> of the WYSIWYG display.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not sure if this is intended behavior or a bug.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (All this said, I agree with Tom that I would use a regular text
> editor
> >>>>> to edit HTML code. Gedit works nicely on my Ubuntu machine.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Virgil
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   On 11/13/2014 01:18 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> When saving your document, select "HTML Document (Writer) (.html)"
> in
> >>>>>>> the "File type:" drop down list in the Save dialog.
> >>>>>>> Kolbjoern
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Den 13.11.2014 11:18, skreiv Ian Whitfield:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Hi All
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Can I get some help on this please??
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have read about, and looked-up, the possibility of editing HTML
> >>>>>>>> documents in Writer but can not get it to work!!
> >>>>>>>> No matter what I do I can not fine 'HTML Mode' or 'View HTML' as
> >>>>>>>> talked about ion the help files.
> >>>>>>>> I can load my document but can not get at the HTML code.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What am I missing or doing wrong??
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm using LO 4.3 on PClinuxOS (latest)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> IanW
> >>>>>>>> Pretoria RSA
> >>>>>>>>
>

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