On Wed, May 11, 2016, at 04:18 PM, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: > > For most users, the recorder is a decent solution. > > As for support, do not expect that from MS unless you have a credit > card. I found some bugs in their C++ compiler about 15 years ago. 5 to > 10 years later I thought for sure they would have fixed them. Nope, I > had to work around them yet again. It had to do with their streaming > classes. There was a failure when the <CR><LF> boundary was split by a > buffer read for some built-in text reading routines. Not like I could > just call MS and get support. I agree that their support also has issues, but the good thing is the number of printed resources available. Did I mention I like to read documentation? A number of years ago I completed a very large VB6 project. A month later MS announced the end of VB as we knew it. That is when I decided to go with open source where ever possible. I still feel that way, but sometimes it just does not work out. > For sure they have a better object layer for manipulating documents. > Not even close. I have never looked at their Macro programming > resources, but, if possible, be certain to use the .NET classes since > VBA is still littered with bugs. Last time I wrote a VBA application, > half my code was related to working around bugs in their language > implementation. These bugs initially existed in OpenOffice.org, but > were fixed years ago; for example, bugs related to determining an > arrays size in certain circumstances. I had to write special routines > to deal with these issues. Moving to the .NET versions made things > really nice, however, with full access to the .NET container classes. > If you have no particular need to run where MSO is not supported, not > a bad move. Good luck on your project. > > On 11.05.2016 08:42, dave boland wrote: >> Andrew, >> >> Thanks for the note. I actually do software development (Java right >> now) and enjoy reading documentation (no, not crazy - I've been >> tested). But when I read a document called "Getting Started With >> Macros", I reasonably expect it to cover the basics of how to create >> a macro from scratch - like I would with a VB program (did that for 6 >> years). I was disappointed to see that it was about using the macro >> recorder, which will not work for me. >> >> I get that the authors are volunteers, and that generally the do a >> fantastic job. However, in this area, not so much. >> >> I've decided that in the short term Calc (and Base) will not fit my >> needs (documentation, support concerns) and will move the data to >> Excel/Access. Not what I wan to do, and not what LO community should >> like, but it seems like the best course of action for this project. >> >> Dave, >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2016, at 02:19 PM, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: >>> Dave, I am copying you directly since I do not know if the email >>> client I am currently using will copy to the list; sorry about that, >>> but I thought you might like my response faster than several hours >>> from now when I am using my standard email client. >>> On 10.05.2016 13:52, dave boland wrote: >>>> I want to automate a Calc spreadsheet to do some data analysis. I >>>> need some help finding a complete tutorial on Calc macros. Looking >>>> for something like the books published for Excell. >>> Not familiar with them >>>> I read the documentation, but it says user created macros are >>>> beyond the scope of the documentation. REALLY! What the heck is the >>>> documentation for then? >>> Done by volunteers and the documentation at which you looked was >>> beyond their scope. >>> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1 >>> Chapter 12 specifically says “Macros” >>> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/cg4-1-ch12-calc-macros/view >>> Chapter 13 contains numerous macro tutorials and examples (well, it >>> did when I wrote the first draft some years back) >>> http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/cg4-1-ch13-calc-as-simple-database/view >>> Or, try here: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php This site contains >>> numerous documents. You might want to look at these two documents. >>> The first is a book and the second is more of a list of macros that >>> accomplish certain tasks. It is kind of a roughly sorted brain dump. >>> http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt >>> http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt >>>> Tried the chat, wants to know what channel. What the heck is that? >>> No idea. >>>> Tried the web version of this mail group, but it would not accept >>>> the catcha code. >>> Hate those! >>>> I'm growing frustrated and very angry. >>> Wait until you try to write macros..... I mean, ummm, sorry you are >>> frustrated and angry. >>> LO Macros are very powerful in that they directly use the internal >>> object structure and it is easy to add support for other languages. >>> The disadvantage is that it has a steep learning curve, especially >>> if you do not already understand software development. I usually >>> recommend that people begin with an example that is close to what >>> they need. The general language structure is essentially identical, >>> but, for the most part, document manipulation methods is very >>> different. >>>> This is supposed to be user support? >>> It is community support. You did not pay for the product and the >>> people who will now try to help you are all volunteers; they do it >>> because they like to help people as part of a community. >>> If you do not care for email type support, be sure to check out >>> this forum >>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en >>> They have some very competent Macro people hanging out in the macro >>> forums. >>> Best of luck!
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