and of course you can always ask us *;-}* On 9 January 2016 at 02:38, Duncan Dickinson <dun...@dickinson.name> wrote:
> Hi Gerald, > > I thought I'd just mention a few resources that you might find useful in > your Groovy adventures: > > 1. Groovy in Action (2nd ed): > https://www.manning.com/books/groovy-in-action-second-edition - this is > the key text for Groovy > > 2. mrhaki has a wonderful trove of Groovy how-tos: > http://mrhaki.blogspot.com.au/search/label/Groovy > > 3. The InfoQ website has a range of Groovy presentations - I recommend > Guillaume's "Groovy with Style!": > http://www.infoq.com/groovy/presentations/ > > 4. The Groovy 2 Tutorial is free to read online: > https://leanpub.com/groovytutorial (disclaimer: I wrote this) > > There are a few others also listed on the website: > http://www.groovy-lang.org/learn.html > > The website documentation has good language coverage but I suggest that > the resources listed above really will help you in learning not only the > language but also its versatility. > > Welcome to Groovy - as you can see it's backed by a very helpful community. > > Regards, > > Duncan > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 7:27 AM, jim northrop < > james.b.north...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> second that motion ;-} >> >> On 8 January 2016 at 21:38, Gerald Wiltse <jerrywil...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sure, to that I would add that I am probably a textbook definition of a >>> "devops" person. I'm someone with extensive IT background, who has dabbled >>> in scripting and debugging apps for years to automate and solve operational >>> problems. Now I"m going deep into Groovy, for operational use cases. I >>> think it rare that a true novice would wake up one day and start coding in >>> Groovy. I would have never touched Groovy if it was not embedded in >>> Logicmonitor, an IT operations platform. >>> >>> One thing I love / commend the groovy doc authors on is the examples >>> where they exist. This is something that almost never exists in Javadocs >>> (if ever). They have been tremendous help. Usually I only get stuck when >>> there are no examples in the groovydoc. I think just adding even one >>> example to docs that have none, would be the best use of any free time >>> someone has for doing documentation. >>> >>> Gerald R. Wiltse >>> jerrywil...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Jim Northrop < >>> james.b.north...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Rather sounds like our docs could use a second viewpoint for those many >>>> peoplewho know nothing about I.T. at all, or just dipping their toe in the >>>> proverbial waters of hacking rather than the pros who already do this 4 a >>>> living. Something like a walk-thru of why would we do this? How do you waLk >>>> a file tree? When would a URL be needed? Whats a 'Rest' service? How do >>>> other languagessolve this issue and why should i usegroovy ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 20:25, Gerald Wiltse <jerrywil...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I understand, you are probably right. >>>> >>>> I will use this opportunity to point out what I feel is a significant >>>> problem in general for people in my situation (sometimes). I'm not a java >>>> developer, and am only trying to teach myself groovy. The problem is that >>>> many groovy documents and examples assume you are a Java developer trying >>>> to transition. Not a super huge deal, and probably unavoidable given the >>>> circumstances, but it's a noteworthy barrier to adoption and learning for >>>> the novice. I'm glad the Groovy team is working on new features, not trying >>>> to port endless examples and use cases from Java to Groovy, however >>>> unfortunately for me, many of my problems are a result of this situation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gerald R. Wiltse >>>> jerrywil...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Jochen Theodorou <blackd...@gmx.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> but I must say, I would not classify your question as a Groovy novice >>>>> question. @Log just uses normal logger, if you want more, you have to set >>>>> a >>>>> logger that can do the things you want... which is actually more a java >>>>> question then >>>>> >>>>> Am 08.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Gerald Wiltse: >>>>> >>>>>> Ok, you guys got it :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Gerald R. Wiltse >>>>>> jerrywil...@gmail.com <mailto:jerrywil...@gmail.com> >>>>>> 248-893-9110 (c) >>>>>> 888-248-7095 (p) >>>>>> 888-272-6046 (f) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jochen Theodorou <blackd...@gmx.org >>>>>> <mailto:blackd...@gmx.org>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I confirm what Pascal said.$ >>>>>> I give you my perspective on SO: >>>>>> I do try to answer as many question over at SO as possible... of >>>>>> the >>>>>> few Tim does leave me ;) But recently I had not so much time and >>>>>> the >>>>>> wrong setup to do these things, so I was not very active there... >>>>>> and even then it is easy to oversee an question at SO for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> bye blackdrag >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 08.01.2016 um 16:37 schrieb Pascal Schumacher: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jerry, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it is perfectly fine to send novice questions to the >>>>>> mailing >>>>>> list. There were a lot of these on the old user list at >>>>>> codehaus. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Pascal >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 8. Januar 2016 16:02:58 MEZ, schrieb Gerald Wiltse >>>>>> <jerrywil...@gmail.com <mailto:jerrywil...@gmail.com>>: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't feel right posting novice level questions to the >>>>>> user group >>>>>> because it seems it should be more for language-level >>>>>> discussion. >>>>>> >>>>>> At the same time, I'm stuck when I don't get any >>>>>> responses to >>>>>> Groovy-related questions on StackOverflow: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34574498/groovy-log-to-file-log-annotation >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there any novice level Groovy-Specific forum, IRC >>>>>> Room, or >>>>>> otherwise, where such questions would be appropriate? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's also hard because so many solutions on the internet >>>>>> are for >>>>>> Grails or Gradle, and as a novice who does not use those, >>>>>> I'm just >>>>>> not sure how many of those things translate to my use >>>>>> cases. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, FYI, Thanks to everyone who does post answers to >>>>>> questions on >>>>>> Stackoverflow/exchange/etc (special mention to Tim >>>>>> Yates, who's >>>>>> posts are always amazing). >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Jerry >>>>>> >>>>>> Gerald R. Wiltse >>>>>> jerrywil...@gmail.com <mailto:jerrywil...@gmail.com> >>>>>> <mailto:jerrywil...@gmail.com <mailto:jerrywil...@gmail.com>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
