I have to confess I have been testing the waters a bit ;) Anyway, I am happy we decided on not having this in 2.5. The problem of course now is if we still want it as different method like doto or self, or if we really want to push this to 3.0 and what should I do with the poor guy from the pull request? Actually starting a 3.0 branch does not look right atm too.

On 06.07.2016 14:41, Canoo wrote:
We can only make breaking changes where the old behavior was just wrong.
The proposal would have been ok as well if we had started with it. But given what we have 
now, it is a "won't fix".

Cheers
Dierk
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Am 06.07.2016 um 14:20 schrieb Jochen Theodorou <[email protected]>:

We have an overlap of https://github.com/apache/groovy/pull/174 and 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-3976. That I would like to discuss.

Basically 3976 is about making "with" return the object it operates on. Right 
now we have

assert 1 == x.with {1}
assert x == x.with {it}

and after 3976 we would have:

assert x == x.with {1}
assert x == x.with {it}

The mentioned pull request goes with the same logic, but using a new method. My opinion 
on this is, that we should go for a breaking change in 2.5 and change "with", 
instead of adding another method on Object.

What do you guys think? Do you agree, or should we keep the current behavior, 
should there be a doto method instead?

PS: just in case some people are wondering... I am trying to get some of our 
old pull requests in, there are too many and keeping them open so long is an 
insult to contributors..

So if I do not forget about this and if there are no reactions I am going to change 
"with"

bye Jochen

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