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On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 9:15 PM Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Midna,
>
> Thanks for your design. I do like it. And yes, this mailing list is fine.
>
> We aren't necessarily unhappy with the current logo. We do get feedback,
> from time to time, that the logo (and even the name Groovy) can seem
> strange at first, and then people seem to get used to it, and often grow to
> like it. And it does seem to have reasonable brand recognition for folks
> who have been in the industry for a while.
>
> Having said that, most of our community is open minded and if we believed
> a new logo would be better for the language, we could probably navigate
> such a change. We'd probably open it up to see if anyone else had candidate
> new logos and then run some kind of poll.
>
> The timing of your suggestion however, isn't ideal. The ASF itself is
> currently contemplating a logo change[1]. They might move away from logos
> containing the word "Apache" and maybe use "ASF" instead, or they might
> produce a new image that we might want to include or be inspired from. I
> don't want you to feel discouraged, but perhaps in 6 months time we'll know
> whether the ASF process is something that might alter our thinking about
> logos. If we do get to that point, I do hope you would submit your proposal
> (or a revamp by then if we know more) for consideration.
>
> Cheers, Paul.
> P.S. I attached a "low quality" logo (all I found quickly) that is
> sometimes used in IDEs.
>
> [1]https://news.apache.org/foundation/entry/evolving-the-asf-brand
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:55 AM midnaw <mid...@kakao.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello! I'm new to mailing lists in general, so please tell me if I'm putting 
>> this in the wrong place
>> or otherwise misusing the list.
>>
>>
>> I've designed and would like to propose an alternate logo for Groovy. It's a 
>> very nice programming
>>
>> language that satisfies all of my gripes with Java, but the logo gave me a 
>> bit of pause when deciding
>>
>> whether or not to learn it. Having spent some time with the language, the 
>> current logo is charming,
>>
>> and definitely screams 'groovy!' but I don't feel it translates well into an 
>> icon (for things like
>>
>> IDEs) and I feel it's also a bit jagged (the lines feel a bit too thick, for 
>> example.)
>>
>>
>> I've attached a PDF with my design. I can tweak it if you'd like, and I 
>> really don't mind criticism
>>
>> (so long as it is constructive.) I like designing things, but I am by no 
>> means a professional designer.
>>
>>
>> If the attachment isn't present, I've also uploaded it to Codeberg, where it 
>> is accessible here:
>>
>>
>> https://codeberg.org/midna/bin/src/branch/main/GroovyLogo.pdf
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what terms would be necessary for this to become the new 
>> project logo, but if anyone does,
>>
>> please let me know. I also don't expect this to replace the project logo, 
>> since people tend to grow
>> attached to them and I myself have been frustrated at redesigns like this.
>>
>> -MW
>> mid...@kakao.com
>>
>

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