Hello Groovy
Community,
At the time I discovered Groovy many years ago I remember that the old logo captured my attention emotionally because, to me, it reflected a new way of thinking about what an improved Java platform language might be.
The graphical style of the logo, to me, inherently brought those phrases to mind and I thought that it was "cool" and definitely worth a deep-dive investigation.
After I explored the language further I remember being repeatedly amazed at the innovation I was seeing in the language.
What I found just reinforced the phrases "free thinking", "a fresh look" and "no boundaries" that the old logo had initially impressed upon me.
So, for these reasons, I too still like the older Groovy Logo; I have no problems with it; It is still "cool" to me.
I'm not a graphic artist so I don't look at a logo as an exercise in meeting rules related to jaggedness, line thickness, and other such criteria.
In this case I look for a visual representation of the emotional appeal of the language.
Nevertheless, there may be a need for a smaller icon-sized logo; I will leave that for the community to decide on the need for such an alternative in limited contexts.
If a discussion regarding a new logo is in worthy of our time at this point then may I suggest that we take a step back and define some requirements for what a new logo should convey.
Then we would at least have some scoring (testing) criteria for any new logo proposals to be considered by the community.
Sorry, this is just my systems/software engineering background again showing itself.
Just some thoughts...
On 2/28/2025 12:46 AM, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
At the time I discovered Groovy many years ago I remember that the old logo captured my attention emotionally because, to me, it reflected a new way of thinking about what an improved Java platform language might be.
The logo immediately made me think about the Hippie Movement, free thinking, a fresh look at the world, and no boundaries.
The graphical style of the logo, to me, inherently brought those phrases to mind and I thought that it was "cool" and definitely worth a deep-dive investigation.
After I explored the language further I remember being repeatedly amazed at the innovation I was seeing in the language.
What I found just reinforced the phrases "free thinking", "a fresh look" and "no boundaries" that the old logo had initially impressed upon me.
So, for these reasons, I too still like the older Groovy Logo; I have no problems with it; It is still "cool" to me.
I'm not a graphic artist so I don't look at a logo as an exercise in meeting rules related to jaggedness, line thickness, and other such criteria.
In this case I look for a visual representation of the emotional appeal of the language.
Nevertheless, there may be a need for a smaller icon-sized logo; I will leave that for the community to decide on the need for such an alternative in limited contexts.
If a discussion regarding a new logo is in worthy of our time at this point then may I suggest that we take a step back and define some requirements for what a new logo should convey.
Then we would at least have some scoring (testing) criteria for any new logo proposals to be considered by the community.
Sorry, this is just my systems/software engineering background again showing itself.
Just some thoughts...
On 2/28/2025 12:46 AM, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
Hi MW
On one hand, I really like the old Groovy logo for screaming "Groovy!", but I can also see why the old logo might be a hindering for new adapters.
I think it is worth having a discussion, and your suggestion is a good step on the way. I can see, that you have put thoughts into this.
My biggest gripe about your current proposal is the choice of colors, as I am really fond of the blue color in the current Groovy logo.
Den fre. 28. feb. 2025 kl. 01.55 skrev midnaw <mid...@kakao.com>:
Hello! I'm new to mailing lists in general, so please tell me if I'm putting this in the wrong place
or otherwise misusing the list.
I've designed and would like to propose an alternate logo for Groovy. It's a very nice programming
language that satisfies all of my gripes with Java, but the logo gave me a bit of pause when deciding
whether or not to learn it. Having spent some time with the language, the current logo is charming,
and definitely screams 'groovy!' but I don't feel it translates well into an icon (for things like
IDEs) and I feel it's also a bit jagged (the lines feel a bit too thick, for example.)
I've attached a PDF with my design. I can tweak it if you'd like, and I really don't mind criticism
(so long as it is constructive.) I like designing things, but I am by no means a professional designer.
If the attachment isn't present, I've also uploaded it to Codeberg, where it is accessible here:
https://codeberg.org/midna/bin/src/branch/main/GroovyLogo.pdf
I'm not sure what terms would be necessary for this to become the new project logo, but if anyone does,
please let me know. I also don't expect this to replace the project logo, since people tend to grow
attached to them and I myself have been frustrated at redesigns like this.
-MW
mid...@kakao.com
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