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Sabato, luglio 27, 2002, alle 04:53 , Mark Liu ha scritto:

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> Yes, this is also a good idea.
[...]

I think that the real problem is "when will we able to really use ipv6?".
Many OSes support IPv6, but the probably most used OS in a desktop 
environment does not. I'm talking about MS-Windows 98 (and possibly 95 
too). This is a real drawback at the question about when we'll really 
use ipv6 in an out-of-experimentation scenario.
Now, many of you are thinking "oh, dammit, this is some other anti-ms 
bullshit". No, I'm not anti microsoft - well, not completely ;) - but I 
think that some of the people who are reading these lines agree with me: 
if MS shipped an official patch for Windows 98 to allow a decent ipv6 
support, with automatic 6to4 and everything, we would see many sites 
adding ipv6 connectivity and maybe switching completely to ipv6. But 
this will happen in a long time, when most "home users" will have 
Windows XP happily installed and won't even know about this strange ipv6 
thing.
Look at it from the provider's point of view. I represent a company, and 
I want as much visibility on the net as possible. Since most of my 
target is using a non-ipv6-compatible operating system, I -must- provide 
my service on ipv4 connectivity, and -possibly- on ipv6 too. But why 
bother, then? Would my services have more visibility for home users if I 
allowed them to reach my services via ipv6? No, not really, since most 
of them don't even know why a dvd holds much more data than a cd. I am 
service provider, and I'm not into experiments, so I won't use ipv6.
And therefore, since most of the services are reachable only by ipv4 
connectivity, new "productivity" (i.e. non "experimental") services 
won't come out with ipv6 connectivity. And if they were, like the 
gnutella thing, very few people would use it, since under w98 wouldn't 
allow it, and this would turn out into a negative spyral.

Now, I'm not a programmer; or at least, I wouldn't be able to help about 
this. So I'm asking this mailing list: is it really so difficult to 
implement an ipv6 stack for windows 98 which works on every machine, 
even if it hasn't got a network interface card? This would be a nice 
challenge for the open-source world, and the benefits would be enormous, 
allowing the 6bone to become a full and real "6internet".

Sorry for the long message, but I needed to pour out my feelings. :)
Best regards
  Daniele
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