Let's see:

Kannel currently functionality works as follows:

When a message longer than 160 chars is queued, Kannel splits it into 2 or
more messages. Only on the first one the registered_delivery flag is set.
That means that Kannel asks for DLR's only on the first part.

You could change Kannel to ask for DLR's on all parts of course, but that's
not very useful, because you need some means to be able to relate the 3
parts back together. The way dlr-url works would mean that the same dlr-url
would be accessed 2 or more times, using the same user values you provided
on all of them.

As was discussed yesterday, a possible solution would be to maintain a local
queue of pending multi-parts, very similar to what Kannel already does with
the multi-part MO: it keeps a queue of parts and only moves the messages to
smsbox when all parts were received. As in the MO implementation, this queue
should expire messages from time to time (and send the proper DLR to the
higher layer).

Regards,

Alex
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Ivan Kurnosov <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hmhmhmh, may be I'm understanding wrong, but my task now is:
>
> To be sure that ALL PARTS of multipart message has been delivered. Is
> there any possible way of doing this?
>
> Another point of view of this issue: If I get only the one dlr message
> (for first msg, as kannel does) - can I be sure that all parts has
> been delivered?
>
> And third part: one of SMSC does not send DLR for miltupart if only
> one message containg delivery request flag. Whose mistake is this -
> kannel's (which does not send delivery request in each message), or
> SMSC's (which does not send me delivery message)?
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Alejandro Guerrieri
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Ivan, %F comes loaded with the information from the smsc. While it should
> be unique, you don't know it in advance, so it can't be used to match back
> to anything on your side. For the dlrs to be useful, you should be able to
> match it against something known on your side, and that's where the id I
> mentioned comes into play.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Alex Guerrieri
> >
> > On 16/09/2010, at 02:06, Ivan Kurnosov <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hmmmm.... I'm talking about %F which is foreign id and as I said -
> >> when it is multipart short message - I get it == 0 at my dlr-url
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Rene Kluwen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> You guys are talking about different id's.
> >>>
> >>> Smsc id (foreign id) is not the same id as you assign in dlr-url.
> >>>
> >>> == Rene
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf
> >>> Of Ivan Kurnosov
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September, 2010 23:58
> >>> To: Alejandro Guerrieri; [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: registered_delivery and multi-parts message
> >>>
> >>> Not the same id. Each part has its own SMSC message_id
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Alejandro Guerrieri
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Yes. I wouldn't call it a bug, it was a design decision. Of course
> you're
> >>>> absolutely entitled to disagree with it and change it on your local
> tree,
> >>> as
> >>>> you already did :)
> >>>> Now, the issue is, since you define one dlr-url (probably with a
> unique id
> >>>> you created) and Kannel splits the message into 2 or 3 parts, you'd
> get 2
> >>> or
> >>>> 3 hits on that URL, sharing the same id. Are you sure that that's what
> you
> >>>> want?
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Alex
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Ivan Kurnosov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Actually, I can ;-) I already fixed kannel (to be clear - i've just
> >>>>> commented 3 lines of code) to send only one DLR msg. So now I get N
> >>>>> delivery messages.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But I'm very curious - is it just kannel "feature" or some smpp
> >>>>> specification mandatory? I've asked this question because one of my
> >>>>> SMSC (currently i'm working with 3 different companies) does not send
> >>>>> me delivery messages if it is 0x1 just at first and not at second
> >>>>> message. So I need to know whether I need to ask their support to
> >>>>> reconfigure SMSC or make some tricks to get that info
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2010/9/15 Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is a known kannel limitation. In a multpart SMS it will request
> >>> DLR
> >>>>>> only for the first part. Nothing you can do about it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BR,
> >>>>>> Nikos
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Kurnosov" <
> [email protected]>
> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:28 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: registered_delivery and multi-parts message
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello there.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why does
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2010-09-15 16:26:32 [25217] [6] DEBUG:   registered_delivery: 0 =
> >>>>>>> 0x00000000
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> for second part even though it was 0x1 for first one?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is not it a bug?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> While reading SMPP v3.4 specification I did not see any
> >>>>>>> recommendations about how to set registered_delivery if there are
> >>>>>>> multiple parts.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> With best regards, Ivan Kurnosov
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> With best regards, Ivan Kurnosov
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> With best regards, Ivan Kurnosov
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> With best regards, Ivan Kurnosov
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> With best regards, Ivan Kurnosov
>

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