On Sun Aug31'25 07:48:45PM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote: > From: Ranjan Maitra via users <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2025 19:48:45 -0500 > To: Community support for Fedora users <[email protected]> > Cc: Ranjan Maitra <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android > > On Tue Aug19'25 09:50:54PM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote: > > From: Ranjan Maitra via users <[email protected]> > > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:50:54 -0500 > > To: Community support for Fedora users <[email protected]> > > Cc: Ranjan Maitra <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android > > > > On Tue Aug19'25 09:35:45PM, Joe Average wrote: > > > From: Joe Average <[email protected]> > > > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:35:45 -0000 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > > > <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android > > > > > > Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > ... > > > > I am not keen on going to GrapheneOS because I do not want to have a > > > > google account to get Playstore apps (necessary ones ... > > > I got a Pixel 8 running GraphenOS with Aurora and F-Droid > > > fits my needs ! > > > > Thanks very much for this! GrapheneOS developers (purists) on their channel > > would be apoplectic at the use of F-Droid (which to a layman like me sounds > > a bit over the top). But this is good to know that Aurora and F-Droid can > > work without signature spoofing provided by microG. Btw, I wonder why > > microG can not be provided as a fork of GrapheneOS as an alternative. > > > > > for 8a: > > > https://grapheneos.org/releases#akita > > > > Thanks, I installed it some time ago, and went back to CalyxOS because I > > did not want to have a Google account. I will try it again now that there > > are a few use cases with Aurora, Obtainium and F-Droid. > > > > Btw, https://grapheneos.org/install/ GrapheneOS does not list Fedora as an > > officially supported system for their installations. I was able to use > > chromium on Fedora for a web install the last time I tried. > > > > Best wishes, > > Ranjan > > I wanted to followup on this and mention that I was able to install > GrapheneOS using Fedora 42. I downloaded android-tools from the official > repos and the web installation using chromium was really painless after that. > > I could not install Obtainium except manually. I also had to install Aurora > manually. And I installed F-Droid, and have noticed that F-Droid seems > "better" than Obtainium because the latter often is not able to get apps from > their actual sites. Also, many apps such as gadgetbridge recommend the use of > F-Droid. > > I was initially able to proceed a long while without Playstore and the Play > services. Outlook lite would not give me notifications, and neither would > Molly (signal fork), but I got around the latter with using an Unified Push > server. Perplexingly, Signal whined a bit with notifications on not having > access to Playstore but did not seem to have much problems that I could tell. > Expedia claimed that they do not work without Playstore but it ended up > working anyway once I did the authentication (logged in). Ultimately, because > the Outlook lite is my work email, I decided to go ahead and install > Playservices (and then remove Playstore). Outlook lite notifications now > work. > > But what did not quite work is the Duolingo language app. It appears that > they really want access to a signed in Playstore account. So I set up a > private area with Playstore and Playservices and this one app (and stay > signed in). I really missed microG here. > > So, things were going reasonably well. However, I have been flummoxed by > battery usage. If anything, my apps now are a fairly substantial subset (but > still a subset) of what they were a week ago, but I seem to be having a > bigger battery drain to the effect of the battery being drained in about half > a day. I am not sure why. Previously I was at about half a battery in a day. > (However, I have always charged my phones at night, so I do not really know > what would happen on the second day.) > > Meanwhile CalyxOS has decided to come in with an August (final) security > update, releasing tomorrow, which essentially tides over for another month, > and I could have kicked myself for not having waited another week. Anyway, I > am pondering whether I should go back to CalyxOS to see if the battery > coincidentally got degraded at the same time as the GrapheneOS install, or > there is something else to it. Unfortunately, however, CalyxOS will have to > be installed manually since there are no web install options that I can see. > > Anyway, so in summary, GrapheneOS has been OK, but for this one battery issue. > > I did report up the GrapheneOS chain that Fedora also works as an OS for > installing GrapheneOS (at least from the web) but it is not clear if that > went anywhere. > > Best wishes, > Ranjan >
Just a small update here, for record: an update this week to Duolingo or to GrapheneOS or Play Services, or two or all three, appears to have Duolingo store working even when not signed into the Playstore. I hope this will stay like this forever. Becasuse who knows if this new behaviour is a bug or the actual intended feature? Ranjan -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
