Daniel,
I appreciate the insights into the challenges. The goal that you
stated, though, is going to be hard to achieve with a limitation of
bare-metal only for developers. See the other thread in this forum for the
service mesh. The kind of resource requirements, as stated in that thread,
needed to do something like that on CRC will rarely be found on a developer
laptop. So, for someone like me, the choice really boils down to running a
full-fledged OCP on a dedicated machine / VM if I want to try out /
experience something like the OpenShift Service Mesh. And such dedicated
machines / VMs are hard to come by unless one uses the public cloud. So, I
hope that running in such an environment becomes easier for CRC.
Regards,
Marvin
FYI - your outgoing mail produces a cc list that is not resolvable by
non-redhat participants; my earlier send failed for the lists - apologies
if this is a duplicate for you
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:21 AM Daniel Veillard <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:00:40PM -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote:
> > Yes, bare-metal only.
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm the manager for the CRC group.
> We indeed tested it only on bare metal. The goal is really to provide
> a quick and easy way for a developer to run OCP 4.x on their laptop.
> That said as Joel suggested you may try to enable nested virtualization
> this will likely allow to boot the VM. Then it's a question of networking
> usually, virt takes 20% of the effort, networking is the 75% of the
> remaining problems <grin/>
>
> Daniel
>
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:50 PM Just Marvin <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Fernando,
> > >
> > > Is CRC only expected to run on bare-metal? I tried running it on a
> VM
> > > in GCP and it didn't work, complaining about virtualization problems
> (sorry
> > > - forget the exact error). It runs find on my laptop, but I'd really
> like
> > > to not muddy up my laptop with all kinds of experimental things.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Marvin
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 12:35 PM Fernando Lozano <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Joel,
> > >>
> > >> Yes, CRC requires virtualization. It creates and manages a VM, using
> the
> > >> hypervisor provided by your laptop OS, and runs OpenShift inside that
> VM.
> > >> AFAIK there is no more all-in-one containerized support for OpenShift
> so
> > >> more 'oc cluster up' for OpenShift 4.x.
> > >>
> > >> []s, Fernando Lozano
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:44 AM Joel Pearson <
> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> With CodeReady Container, it's not possible to use it without
> > >>> virtualisation right? Because it needs CoreOS, and can't startup on
> an
> > >>> existing docker installation like you can with "oc cluster up"?
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm only asking because I almost got OKD 3.11 running on Windows 10
> WSL
> > >>> (windows subsystem for linux) v2. But if it's a full VM, then
> running
> > >>> inside WSL 2 doesn't really make sense (and probably doesn't work
> anyway).
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 02:35, Daniel Comnea <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Recently folks were asking what is the minishift's alternative for
> v4
> > >>>> and in case you've missed the news see [1]
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hopefully that will also work for OKD v4 once the MVP is out.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dani
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1]
> > >>>>
> https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2019/09/05/red-hat-openshift-4-on-your-laptop-introducing-red-hat-codeready-containers/
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