This is all but one opinion on the subject. IMHO, as this is a user list and not a developer list, I'd advise that moderation should not be so restrictive when the subject matter is not at all off topic.

I also think that "comparing total downloads against any discussion" is a very poor and biased measure of user needs/requirements. If you go around cutting discussions short, then your biasing such a measure in favor of your own personal opinion and as such it does not reflect the true opinion of your userbase.

-Mark Diggory
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/math/index.html

Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 20:14, Bob Cumbers wrote:

Never going to happen and I make no apologies for that.

It's nice to see that you take user input so graciously


Give me a break.

When I think something is categorically a bad practice then the dialog
is cut short. I am not trying to win any popularity contests and I'm
don't care if every single user is happy. It's just not possible. But I
have taken loads of suggestions for Maven and they have found there way
into Maven. But there are several issues like multiple sources
directories, mixing test and application code and several other issues
which I will not change my mind on.


Maven is but one solution for building your project. I encourage anyone
not happy with it to go find something else.


I also take into consideration the number of downloads in constrast with
the number of people who complain about certain limitations. I certainly
don't think mixing test/application code is a good idea but I think
given that I've only seen a few people want this out of the thousands
that have downloaded Maven is  a good indicator that most users think
it's not a very good idea. I'm not a politician, I could care less if
all users like me because most users are selfish and only consider their
own methods and own desires when requesting features while generally
never considering larger issues. As always there are the valued and
treasured exceptions by users who have genuinely taken into
consideration all users and the larger issues. Just because a user makes
a suggestion doesn't mean it's a good one. If you're looking for grace
go somewhere else.


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