> On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 16:03, Steve Garcia wrote:
> > Will the book provide documentation in addition to 
> (hopefully) the 1.0 
> > final documentation that will get updated at maven.apache.org?  Or 
> > will the book contain a substantial amount of documentation that 
> > cannot be found on the web?
> 
> It will more than likely be information that can't be found 
> on the web. I would like to release an electronic copy of the 
> book for free but I don't think I'll be able to swing that.
> 
> > I myself would like to see a complete Maven documentation effort be 
> > released on the maven website, much like Ant's 
> documentation is all on 
> > the website.
> 
> Publishers are not really into giving away the content of 
> books they intend to sell. I think it could work in their 
> favour much like it did for Bruce Eckel's books but the 
> decision is not ultimately up to me. I can only ask that an 
> electronic copy be put on the web at no cost.

Yea. That makes complete sense.

> > I'm not sure spending between $30 and $40 for the Maven book for 
> > documentation would be something that the masses want.
> 
> That why publishers try to do a little market research. The 
> book won't be printed unless they can expect to sell a 
> reasonable number of copies, say 10k copies.

I have heard that is usually the minimum number of copies that must be sold
in order for a book to be published.

> > Complete documentation, with the general specificity that Ant 
> > provides, would be sufficient for me, and I probably speak for the 
> > majority of Maven users.
> > 
> > Would the book target the Maven 1.0 release?  Or the Maven 2.0 
> > release?  (or the Maven-New 1.0 release?)
> 
> I'm shooting for the new version and you have to remember it 
> can take quite a bit of time to write a book. Even with two people.

It could take more than a year (and it most likely will.)  Maven is still
evolving, right?  It seems reaonable to assume that in 12-18 months enough
changes will have been put into Maven that writing a book, that is accurate,
might make it even that more challenging.

I can see a time when core Maven really doesn't change and the only thing
that evolves are the plugins.  In that case having a book, or online
documentation, for core Maven would be excellent.  

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> jvz.
> 
> Jason van Zyl
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> rational and technical order to justify his work and to be 
> justified in it.
>   
>   -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
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