Hi Mirko,

Looks like the topic getting very interesting here, but I would like to
refocus on the skillset

How did you form up your team?, did you all pickup Java before joining this
devops team?

Thanks for all the sharing

-Dan

PS.  Would love to hear other experiences from community rather me sucking
out Mirko's :-)


On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Mirko Friedenhagen <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Hello Dan,
>
> we treat tooling like software as well. Ticket creation is an automated 2
> click process and the package qa will not take more than 5 minutes for
> small changes.
>
> External libraries from central may be used at free will, but we recommend
> stuff in a so called toolbox, these dependencies are managed in the
> department pom.
>
> The (programming) architects and we help discovering alternatives in our
> toolbox, stuff from repositories outside central is mostly put in a
> third-party repo in Artifactory.
>
> Regards
> Mirko
> --
> Sent from my mobile
> Am 31.05.2015 00:06 schrieb "Dan Tran" <[email protected]>:
>
> > Hi Mirko
> >
> > Looks like you have Artifactory to store all of release artifacts and
> > another 'release' repo to store the final approved release
> >
> > Is internal tooling, thirdparty upload  going thru the same release
> > process?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Mirko Friedenhagen <
> > [email protected]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Dan,
> > >
> > > - Every developer may deploy SNAPSHOTs, however this is normally done
> > > by Jenkins.
> > > - We do not enforce staging from Jenkins, however almost all projects
> > > do this. We do not enforce this, so Jenkins outages do not inhibit
> > > releasing hot fixes.
> > > - Releases are deployed to a staging repository in Artifactory and we
> > > have a process called package-qa where for every staged release a
> > > corresponding JIRA ticket has to be created with information (changes,
> > > Wiki page, diff link since last release, ticket queue). This is a
> > > central place where you may see all releases in one place.
> > > - This ticket is parsed by a script from Jenkins which procures
> > > artifacts from staging to a releases repository and adds general
> > > quality information from SonarQube and Jenkins as well as the SHA1
> > > sums to the ticket so we have a second record which may be used to
> > > detect forgery. Additionally the script checks for the existence of
> > > the SCM tag and retrieves the number of changed lines between
> > > releases.
> > > - No blocker or critical and no new major issues are allowed in
> > > SonarQube, otherwise procurement will fail.
> > > - The reporter and the "mover" have to be different persons to enforce
> > > a "four eyes" principle.
> > > - The "mover" (sometimes someone from development QA, most of the
> > > times nowadays another developer) has to check some things and must
> > > inspect the diff to detect whether all changes are explained.
> > > - Our operations teams will only pick production releases from the
> > > final releases repository, other stages may pick up artifacts from the
> > > staging repository.
> > > - We do not sign artifacts.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Mirko
> > > Regards Mirko
> > > --
> > > http://illegalstateexception.blogspot.com/
> > > https://github.com/mfriedenhagen/ (http://osrc.dfm.io/mfriedenhagen)
> > > https://bitbucket.org/mfriedenhagen/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Dan Tran <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Thanks Mirko
> > > >
> > > >   * What about snapshot and release policy, do developers/qa have
> > access
> > > to
> > > > deploy snapshot and release artifacts?
> > > >   * do you use artifact signing similar to Maven Central?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again
> > > >
> > > > -Dan
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Mirko Friedenhagen <
> > > [email protected]
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> What I forgot:
> > > >>
> > > >> patience, social skills  and remembering that not every application
> > > >> developer needs to be a build specialist are important as well :-)
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >> Mirko
> > > >> --
> > > >> Sent from my mobile
> > > >> Am 30.05.2015 07:29 schrieb "Dan Tran" <[email protected]>:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >  I would like to ask if the community can share with me what it
> > takes
> > > to
> > > >> > maintain an enterprise build system with continuous integration of
> > > 100+
> > > >> > developer + QA and growing using Maven.  The build system contains
> > > many
> > > >> > components with their own release cycle and they do integrate
> > > together.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >    - is java skill set to develop plugin a must?
> > > >> >    - do you have a team or just a few of deep understanding of
> Maven
> > > >> > developers?
> > > >> >    - will a none java RelEng able to perform Maven release?
> > > >> >    - does your RelEng maintains the pom or developers?
> > > >> >    - what are your challenges?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -Dan
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
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