Hi Tamás,
We have previously played around a bit with mvnd but not takari directly – I 
will have a play with it. With regards to this issue, using the takari smart 
builder unfortunately doesn’t resolve the issue.
Joe

On 2024/02/07 11:41:22 Tamás Cservenák wrote:
> Can you please try smart builder instead?
> https://github.com/takari/takari-smart-builder
>
> (note: smart builder is used by mvnd as well)
>
> The difference between the two can be seen here:
> http://takari.io/book/30-team-maven.html#takari-smart-builder
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 11:50 AM Joseph Leonard <
> joseph.leon...@alfasystems.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Tamás,
> > Yeah, this was unexpected to me initially as well. From what I can tell
> > the Maven reactor only considers direct dependencies (i.e. not transitive
> > dependencies) between the modules in the reactor when working out the build
> > graph. For example if you have a simple linear dependency chain of:
> > One --> Two --> Three --> Four --> Five
> > Then invoking “mvn clean verify -pl One,Two,Four,Five -T 2 will result in
> > two ‘graphs’ being built in parallel ([One,Two] and [Four,Five]). I assume
> > this is as designed because it actually offers quite powerful functionality
> > to improve the parallelism in your build. An example of where this is legit
> > is when:
> >
> >   *   “Four” has a test scope dependency on “Five”
> >   *   “One” has a test scoped dependency on “Two”
> > If you made a src code change to “Five” and “Two” then it would be safe to
> > build [One,Two] and [Four,Five] in parallel because you know the changes
> > within these graphs cannot impact each other.
> > Joe
> >
> > On 2024/02/06 21:37:42 Tamás Cservenák wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > To me this looks like Maven is not aware that the App depends on
> > ModuleB...
> > > Are they "plain dependency" linked? Or what kind of dependency we talk
> > > about here?
> > > In short: why would App start while ModuleB (upstream dep) is not done?
> > > Something is fishy here.
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joseph Leonard <
> > > joseph.leon...@alfasystems.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > It would be great to get any thoughts on whether the following is a
> > defect:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Issue details:
> > > > tl;dr
> > > >
> > > > Maven can resolve dependencies either from:
> > > >
> > > >   *   an external repo
> > > >   *   a class directory of a module being built within the reactor
> > > >   *   a packaged jar of a module being built within the reactor
> > > >
> > > > If you run a concurrent multi-module build it is possible to get a race
> > > > condition whereby the build of module Foo may resolve module Bar from
> > > > either of the three resolution channels. This inconsistency can result
> > in
> > > > the Maven war plugin sometimes failing to build a functional war file.
> > I
> > > > would expect a consistent resolution would always take place.
> > > >
> > > > Full details
> > > > Scenario
> > > >
> > > > Consider you have a repo with the following structure:
> > > >
> > > >                        App
> > > >
> > > >                      /     \
> > > >
> > > >                     /       \
> > > >
> > > >        (compile scope)      (test scope)
> > > >
> > > >                   /           \
> > > >
> > > >                 \/_           _\/
> > > >
> > > >              ModuleA      TestSupportModule1
> > > >
> > > >                 /
> > > >
> > > >                /
> > > >
> > > >     (compile scope)
> > > >
> > > >              /
> > > >
> > > >            \/_
> > > >
> > > >         ModuleB
> > > >
> > > >            /
> > > >
> > > >           /
> > > >
> > > >     (test scope)
> > > >
> > > >         /
> > > >
> > > >       \/_
> > > >
> > > > TestSupportModule2
> > > >
> > > > If you were to make a src code change to the following test support
> > > > modules:
> > > >
> > > >   *   TestSupportModule1
> > > >   *   TestSupportModule2
> > > >
> > > > Then the minimum number of modules we need to build to verify the
> > change
> > > > set is OK is:
> > > >
> > > >   *   TestSupportModule1
> > > >   *   TestSupportModule2
> > > >   *   ModuleB
> > > >   *   App
> > > >
> > > > i.e. there is no requirement to build ModuleA because we know that
> > none of
> > > > the src code changes could impact the classpaths used in its maven
> > build.
> > > >
> > > > We know that despite 'App' depending (transitively) on ModuleB there
> > is no
> > > > need for the 'App' build to wait for ModuleB to complete its build
> > because
> > > > the src code change to TestSupportModule2 will not impact any of the
> > > > classpaths used in the App maven build. Therefore to get the most
> > efficient
> > > > build possible we ideally would invoke Maven to run with 2 threads and
> > with
> > > > instruction to build two distinct 'dependency graphs':
> > > >
> > > >   *   TestSupportModule1 followed by ModuleB
> > > >   *   TestSupportModule1 followed by App
> > > >
> > > > The following Maven command achieves exactly what we want because the
> > > > reactor build order is based only on the direct (i.e. non-transitive)
> > > > dependencies of the modules provided to the reactor in the build
> > command.
> > > > Therefore the absence of ModuleA results in two distinct 'dependency
> > > > graphs':
> > > >
> > > > mvn clean verify -pl TestSupportModule1,TestSupportModule2,ModuleB,App
> > -T 2
> > > >
> > > > Note: In reality the code base I maintain has a very large monobuild
> > with
> > > > 100s of modules and this type of build optimisation makes a significant
> > > > difference to the speed of our monobuild (we use
> > > >
> > https://github.com/gitflow-incremental-builder/gitflow-incremental-builder
> > > > to automate the logic of determining which modules to include in the
> > > > reactor based on our change set).
> > > >
> > > > Issue
> > > >
> > > > We have encountered an issue in the above scenario because the 'App'
> > build
> > > > has a race condition with the ModuleB build which will result in one
> > of the
> > > > following three outcomes:
> > > >
> > > >   *   If the 'App' build starts before the ModuleB build has compiled
> > its
> > > > src classes then the 'App' build will resolve ModuleB from the external
> > > > repo (i.e. equivalent to ModuleB not being in the reactor at all)
> > > >   *   If the 'App' build starts after ModuleB has compiled its src
> > classes
> > > > but before it has packaged these classes into a jar then the 'App'
> > build
> > > > will resolve ModuleB's target/classes directory
> > > >   *   If the 'App' build starts after ModuleB has packaged its jar file
> > > > then the 'App' build will resolve ModuleB's target/ModuleB.jar file.
> > > >
> > > > In many scenarios this dependency resolution inconsistency doesn't
> > > > represent a challenge. However, it does cause an issue in our case
> > because
> > > > the 'App' POM has its Maven packaging stanza configured to war and in
> > the
> > > > scenario where ModuleB's target/classes directory is resolved by the
> > 'App'
> > > > then this results in the resultant 'App' war file being packaged with a
> > > > completely empty ModuleB.jar file.
> > > >
> > > > Proposed solution
> > > >
> > > > Ideally we would like the Maven reactor to retain isolation between the
> > > > two distinct 'dependency graphs' it constructs at instantiation
> > throughout
> > > > the entire Maven build. This would mean, in the simple example above,
> > that
> > > > the 'App' would always resolves ModuleB from the external repo
> > (regardless
> > > > of whether the reactor has built ModuleB or not in a separate
> > 'dependency
> > > > graph' in the reactor).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joseph Leonard
> > > > Manager
> > > >
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