Hej, yes, basically the "hack" is well described by you: - it retains "full' reactor project - introduces "needs build" on project - when it comes to building, it skips the project if flag set
This results that module-b -> app link is not lost. And as for your parallelization request: the truth is that there IS and edge between app and module-b (via module-a), so despite module-a is "done", its transitive module-b is not done, hence you cannot build these two in parallel, as you do have an edge between app and module-b. Or to invert the question: what module-b JAR you want to have included in app WAR, when building? The one built, or the one from the local repository? If the latter, why are you building it in the first place? On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 12:06 PM Joseph Leonard < joseph.leon...@alfasystems.com> wrote: > Hi Tamás, > Thank you for hacking around this so rapidly. I am not familiar with the > maven code base, so let me know if I have misinterpreted the change: Is > your hack to: > > 1. Retain the full multi-module build dependency graph such that the > build graph always remains consistent regardless of whether a “-pl” arg has > been provided > 2. Introduce a skip build option to satisfy the functionality of the > “-pl” arg: The reactor will report the module has been built but the build > is basically a no-op > If so, this does resolve the issue but at the cost of losing the > opportunity to gain extra parallelism in the build. > What I was wondering may be possible (without any idea of how feasible it > would be to implement) would be the opportunity to recognise in the > multi-build distinct build graphs and then keep isolation in the reactor > between these graphs. To elaborate, in the reproducer scenario there would > be two distinct graphs: > > * "testsupport-module-1" followed by "app" > * "testsupport-module-2" followed by "module-b" > Ideally these two graphs build in parallel to each other and even if > ultimately there is a dependency between them they NEVER resolve that > dependency from within reactor they instead always resolve from the > external Maven cache. The key statement here is that if a user presents a > list of modules to be built then they really need to be sure that the > DIRECT dependencies between these modules truly represent the build > graph(s) they want. For tools like gitflow-incremental-builder which are > designed to carefully work out change sets and what needs to build this > offers a really powerful opportunity to optimise builds. I appreciate this > functionality could also be seen as a gotcha (although tbf this already > exists). > Thanks, > Joe > > > On 2024/02/08 10:09:31 Tamás Cservenák wrote: > > Seems we are on track with this. To prove my last-night theory I created > a > > "hack" (is really just that) and guess what? > > It makes reproducer behave "as expected": > > https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/1406 > > > > T > > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 10:05 PM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> > wrote: > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > Thank you very much, the reproducer works. Did not dig thru it fully, > but > > > here are some related issues: > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-8028 (funny thing, I created > > > this few weeks ago) > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6300 > > > > > > Will report back tomorrow (EU TZ) > > > T > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:48 PM Joseph Leonard < > > > joseph.leon...@alfasystems.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Tamás, > > >> I have created a simple example here: > > >> https://github.com/josple/mvn-multibuild-issue > > >> Hopefully the README is clear enough – let me know if I can clarify > > >> anything. > > >> Thanks, > > >> Joe > > >> > > >> On 2024/02/07 17:33:08 Tamás Cservenák wrote: > > >> > Howdy, > > >> > > > >> > In that case, there is something fishy with the project, my blind > guess > > >> > would be some "hidden" inter-module dependency maybe? > > >> > > > >> > Can you provide access to source, or, if not feasible, could you > provide > > >> > some reproducer and publish it on Github/Gitlab/whatever (maybe even > > >> just > > >> > send it privately as ML strips off attachments and images) for us > to see > > >> > this in action? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks > > >> > T > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 6:29 PM Joseph Leonard < > > >> > joseph.leon...@alfasystems.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Hi Tamás, > > >> > > We have previously played around a bit with mvnd but not takari > > >> directly – > > >> > > I will have a play with it. With regards to this issue, using the > > >> takari > > >> > > smart builder unfortunately doesn’t resolve the issue. > > >> > > Joe > > >> > > > > >> > > On 2024/02/07 11:41:22 Tamás Cservenák wrote: > > >> > > > Can you please try smart builder instead? > > >> > > > https://github.com/takari/takari-smart-builder > > >> > > > > > >> > > > (note: smart builder is used by mvnd as well) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The difference between the two can be seen here: > > >> > > > http://takari.io/book/30-team-maven.html#takari-smart-builder > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 11:50 AM Joseph Leonard < > > >> > > > joseph.leon...@alfasystems.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hi Tamás, > > >> > > > > Yeah, this was unexpected to me initially as well. From what I > > >> can tell > > >> > > > > the Maven reactor only considers direct dependencies (i.e. not > > >> > > transitive > > >> > > > > dependencies) between the modules in the reactor when working > out > > >> the > > >> > > build > > >> > > > > graph. For example if you have a simple linear dependency > chain > > >> of: > > >> > > > > One --> Two --> Three --> Four --> Five > > >> > > > > Then invoking “mvn clean verify -pl One,Two,Four,Five -T 2 > will > > >> result > > >> > > in > > >> > > > > two ‘graphs’ being built in parallel ([One,Two] and > [Four,Five]). > > >> I > > >> > > assume > > >> > > > > this is as designed because it actually offers quite powerful > > >> > > functionality > > >> > > > > to improve the parallelism in your build. An example of where > > >> this is > > >> > > legit > > >> > > > > is when: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > * “Four” has a test scope dependency on “Five” > > >> > > > > * “One” has a test scoped dependency on “Two” > > >> > > > > If you made a src code change to “Five” and “Two” then it > would be > > >> > > safe to > > >> > > > > build [One,Two] and [Four,Five] in parallel because you know > the > > >> > > changes > > >> > > > > within these graphs cannot impact each other. > > >> > > > > Joe > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > On 2024/02/06 21:37:42 Tamás Cservenák wrote: > > >> > > > > > Howdy, > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > To me this looks like Maven is not aware that the App > depends on > > >> > > > > ModuleB... > > >> > > > > > Are they "plain dependency" linked? Or what kind of > dependency > > >> we > > >> > > talk > > >> > > > > > about here? > > >> > > > > > In short: why would App start while ModuleB (upstream dep) > is > > >> not > > >> > > done? > > >> > > > > > Something is fishy here. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > T > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joseph Leonard < > > >> > > > > > joseph.leon...@alfasystems.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi all, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > It would be great to get any thoughts on whether the > > >> following is a > > >> > > > > defect: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Issue details: > > >> > > > > > > tl;dr > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Maven can resolve dependencies either from: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > * an external repo > > >> > > > > > > * a class directory of a module being built within the > > >> reactor > > >> > > > > > > * a packaged jar of a module being built within the > > >> reactor > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > If you run a concurrent multi-module build it is possible > to > > >> get a > > >> > > race > > >> > > > > > > condition whereby the build of module Foo may resolve > module > > >> Bar > > >> > > from > > >> > > > > > > either of the three resolution channels. This > inconsistency > > >> can > > >> > > result > > >> > > > > in > > >> > > > > > > the Maven war plugin sometimes failing to build a > functional > > >> war > > >> > > file. > > >> > > > > I > > >> > > > > > > would expect a consistent resolution would always take > place. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Full details > > >> > > > > > > Scenario > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Consider you have a repo with the following structure: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > App > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > / \ > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > / \ > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > (compile scope) (test scope) > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > / \ > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > \/_ _\/ > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ModuleA TestSupportModule1 > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > / > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > / > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > (compile scope) > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > / > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > \/_ > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ModuleB > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > / > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > / > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > (test scope) > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > / > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > \/_ > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > TestSupportModule2 > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > If you were to make a src code change to the following > test > > >> support > > >> > > > > > > modules: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > * TestSupportModule1 > > >> > > > > > > * TestSupportModule2 > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Then the minimum number of modules we need to build to > verify > > >> the > > >> > > > > change > > >> > > > > > > set is OK is: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > * TestSupportModule1 > > >> > > > > > > * TestSupportModule2 > > >> > > > > > > * ModuleB > > >> > > > > > > * App > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > i.e. there is no requirement to build ModuleA because we > know > > >> that > > >> > > > > none of > > >> > > > > > > the src code changes could impact the classpaths used in > its > > >> maven > > >> > > > > build. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > We know that despite 'App' depending (transitively) on > ModuleB > > >> > > there > > >> > > > > is no > > >> > > > > > > need for the 'App' build to wait for ModuleB to complete > its > > >> build > > >> > > > > because > > >> > > > > > > the src code change to TestSupportModule2 will not impact > any > > >> of > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > > > classpaths used in the App maven build. Therefore to get > the > > >> most > > >> > > > > efficient > > >> > > > > > > build possible we ideally would invoke Maven to run with 2 > > >> threads > > >> > > and > > >> > > > > with > > >> > > > > > > instruction to build two distinct 'dependency graphs': > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > * TestSupportModule1 followed by ModuleB > > >> > > > > > > * TestSupportModule1 followed by App > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > The following Maven command achieves exactly what we want > > >> because > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > > > reactor build order is based only on the direct (i.e. > > >> > > non-transitive) > > >> > > > > > > dependencies of the modules provided to the reactor in the > > >> build > > >> > > > > command. > > >> > > > > > > Therefore the absence of ModuleA results in two distinct > > >> > > 'dependency > > >> > > > > > > graphs': > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > mvn clean verify -pl > > >> > > TestSupportModule1,TestSupportModule2,ModuleB,App > > >> > > > > -T 2 > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Note: In reality the code base I maintain has a very large > > >> > > monobuild > > >> > > > > with > > >> > > > > > > 100s of modules and this type of build optimisation makes > a > > >> > > significant > > >> > > > > > > difference to the speed of our monobuild (we use > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > https://github.com/gitflow-incremental-builder/gitflow-incremental-builder > > >> > > > > > > to automate the logic of determining which modules to > include > > >> in > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > > > reactor based on our change set). > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Issue > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > We have encountered an issue in the above scenario > because the > > >> > > 'App' > > >> > > > > build > > >> > > > > > > has a race condition with the ModuleB build which will > result > > >> in > > >> > > one > > >> > > > > of the > > >> > > > > > > following three outcomes: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > * If the 'App' build starts before the ModuleB build > has > > >> > > compiled > > >> > > > > its > > >> > > > > > > src classes then the 'App' build will resolve ModuleB > from the > > >> > > external > > >> > > > > > > repo (i.e. equivalent to ModuleB not being in the reactor > at > > >> all) > > >> > > > > > > * If the 'App' build starts after ModuleB has compiled > > >> its src > > >> > > > > classes > > >> > > > > > > but before it has packaged these classes into a jar then > the > > >> 'App' > > >> > > > > build > > >> > > > > > > will resolve ModuleB's target/classes directory > > >> > > > > > > * If the 'App' build starts after ModuleB has packaged > > >> its jar > > >> > > file > > >> > > > > > > then the 'App' build will resolve ModuleB's > target/ModuleB.jar > > >> > > file. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > In many scenarios this dependency resolution inconsistency > > >> doesn't > > >> > > > > > > represent a challenge. However, it does cause an issue in > our > > >> case > > >> > > > > because > > >> > > > > > > the 'App' POM has its Maven packaging stanza configured to > > >> war and > > >> > > in > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > scenario where ModuleB's target/classes directory is > resolved > > >> by > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > 'App' > > >> > > > > > > then this results in the resultant 'App' war file being > > >> packaged > > >> > > with a > > >> > > > > > > completely empty ModuleB.jar file. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Proposed solution > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Ideally we would like the Maven reactor to retain > isolation > > >> > > between the > > >> > > > > > > two distinct 'dependency graphs' it constructs at > > >> instantiation > > >> > > > > throughout > > >> > > > > > > the entire Maven build. 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