May be moot at this time bug figured I’d chime in in this thread

I think the mailing list may represent a small group of stakeholders but
may not truly reflect actual users not on the list.

Looking on Stack Overflow…there are still questions being asked (as of end
of last year) does that not imply there are still users outside of this
mailing list?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/maven-pdf-plugin

Maybe a notice of the web page noting potential retirement may be a good
option as well.

I disagree some about not discussing replacement (not the details per se).
If a product is discontinued and someone is still using it that may cause
them difficulties and need to know the alternative and the amount of time
and effort required to change over.

In the end if it still available in the archives I assume those users may
be able to gain some access to it so maybe not the end of the world.

Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com


On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 9:00 AM Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> Even if I was the maintainer of the maven 1 version 20 years ago, I don't
> really see the value nowadays.
> Sites are already less used than in the past, the need to export in PDF
> seems very limited today
>
>
> Arnaud Héritier
> GitHub/ASF/... : aheritier
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 3:22 PM Mirko Friedenhagen
> <mfriedenha...@gmx.de.invalid> wrote:
>
> > +1 - never used it myself and no one in the workplace I knew of (I am the
> > Maven-expert here)
> >
> > Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> > Mirko Friedenhagen
> > —
> >
> >
> > > Am 17.02.2025 um 07:39 schrieb Hervé Boutemy <herve.bout...@free.fr>:
> > >
> > > +1 too complex for too low usage
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > Hervé
> > >
> > > Le mercredi 12 février 2025, 19:59:19 CET Matthias Bünger a écrit :
> > >> Hi all,
> > >> some months ago, we noticed that the regular build of the Maven PDF
> > >> plugin broke, because the plugin is not compatible to Doxia 2.0.0
> (also
> > >> see MPDF-112).
> > >> The question raised, if we should retrie the PDF plugin.
> > >>
> > >> Some information:
> > >> Last version, 1.6.1, was released in August 2022. However almost all
> PR
> > >> of this plugin since 2020 were dependency updates brought up by
> > >> dependabot. So you could argue that the plugin is somehow "dead".
> > >>
> > >> Monthly downloads of ALL versions were around 43.000 over the last
> year,
> > >> with a peak in October and November reaching 57.000 downloads. However
> > >> since December it crashed down to 17.000 downloads according to
> central
> > >> stats.
> > >> If we look at the last version, the monthly downloads raised from
> 19.000
> > >> in February 2024 to a peak of 33.500 in October. Since December they
> are
> > >> down to 11.000 downloads per month, which are roughly 65% of all
> > >> downloads of the plugin.
> > >>
> > >> As a comparison: The total number of downloads of the Maven compiler
> > >> plugin (which ofc is a core plugin) is almost 32,5 million per months
> > >> (almost 42 million in October 2024, but the mentioned "crash" in
> > >> December is noticeable throughout all plugins.
> > >>
> > >> --------
> > >> So I want to start the discussion by asking: Who is using the pdf
> > >> plugin? Did you switch to other tools for generating documentation
> (for
> > >> example ASCII Doc [plugin])? What do you think about archiving the PDF
> > >> plugin?
> > >>
> > >> What do you think?
> > >>
> > >> Matthias
> > >>
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