On 11/19/05, Carlos Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'll try to put a bit of light at this.
>
> - I've put the spring jars in the repo so you guys can use them in m1 and m2
> - At first there were no poms because it takes me some time to have them ready
> - I'm working on the poms, I've put the ones i was using first, but
> there was no optional dependencies though, so now I'm pretty close to
> have them ready with the optional stuff.
>
> About spring full jar, I don't suggest you to use it depends in a lot
> of stuff, in fact I don't know if I'll make a pom for it.

IMO, there should be a POM for Spring - mainly because I believe that
there's a lot of folks just using spring.jar rather than the
individual JARs.

> To make
> transitive dependencies work correctly you should add only what you
> need.

Sure, but shouldn't ease of use be a concern as well?

>  I believe that if you depend on
>
> spring-support
> spring-orm
> spring-hibernate
> spring-remoting
> spring-core
>
> you get the same things as in spring jar.

So now I have to have 25 lines of XML in my pom.xml - instead of 5 for
spring.jar?  Ugh.

Matt

>
> About the groupId you should use org.springframework. Just
> springframework will work but it's just a relocation to
> org.springframework.
>
> If you wanna know the status of this you can subscribe to the jira
> issues MEV-108 and MEV-133.
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> On 11/19/05, Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Stephen,
> >
> > I was using groupId=springframework, but switched to
> > org.springframework when I tried to upgrade 1.2.6 today.  I was hoping
> > to revert back to springframework and have all my problems solved -
> > but no dice.
> >
> > The easiest thing for me to do seems to be to upload my own POM and
> > JAR to my own repository.  This is likely what I'll do for many
> > dependencies since the ibiblio repository seems to change dependencies
> > often - and just when you think you've got a library cleaned up -
> > something like this happens.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On 11/19/05, Stephen Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I've been using a groupId of springframework, instead of
> > > org.springframework.  Also I've started depending on the individual
> > > spring modules, instead of the full jar.  Same issue though: a bunch
> > > of exclusions.  Usually a new version (such as Spring 1.2.6 right now)
> > > has no dependencies at first, but then a week or so later they add all
> > > the dependencies in.
> > >
> > > Here's a couple of the Maven Evangelism tickets open about the issue:
> > >
> > > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV-108
> > > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV-133
> > >
> > > Here's the current dependencies with exclusions I have (in a global
> > > parent POM in dependencyManagement).  Note that parts are particular
> > > to me, because I'm using Hibernate 2 and not 3, for instance.  Still,
> > > it's a start:
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-aop</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                                 <exclusions>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>commons-attributes</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>commons-attributes-compiler</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>commons-attributes</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>commons-attributes-api</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>aopalliance</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>aopalliance</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>commons-pool</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>commons-pool</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 <groupId>oro</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>oro</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>com.jamonapi</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>jamon</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                 </exclusions>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-beans</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                                 <exclusions>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 <groupId>cglib</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>cglib</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                 </exclusions>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-context</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                                 <exclusions>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>velocity</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>velocity</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>freemarker</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>freemarker</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>jasperreports</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>jasperreports</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                 </exclusions>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-core</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-web</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                                 <exclusions>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>javax.servlet</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>jsp-api</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>javax.servlet</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>jstl</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 <groupId>struts</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>struts</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>com.servlets</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>cos</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 <groupId>taglibs</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>standard</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>javax.faces</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>jsf-api</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                 </exclusions>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-dao</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                                 <exclusions>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>javax.transaction</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>jta</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 <groupId>jotm</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>jotm</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                 </exclusions>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-jdbc</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                                 <exclusions>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>commons-dbcp</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>commons-dbcp</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 <groupId>c3p0</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>c3p0</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>com.experlog</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>xapool</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                 </exclusions>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-hibernate</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                                 <exclusions>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>org.hibernate</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>hibernate-annotations</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>org.hibernate</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>hibernate</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                 </exclusions>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-orm</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                                 <exclusions>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>spring-webmvc</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>javax.jdo</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>jdo</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>com.oracle</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>toplink-api</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>com.ibatis</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>ibatis-sqlmap</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>com.ibatis</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>ibatis2-sqlmap</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 <groupId>ojb</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>db-ojb</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                 </exclusions>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >                         <dependency>
> > >                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> > >                                 <artifactId>spring-webmvc</artifactId>
> > >                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> > >                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> > >                                 <exclusions>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>velocity</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>velocity</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>velocity-tools</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>velocity-tools-generic</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>velocity-tools</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>velocity-tools-view</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 <groupId>poi</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>poi</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 <groupId>itext</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>itext</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                         <exclusion>
> > >                                                 
> > > <groupId>net.sourceforge.jexcelapi</groupId>
> > >                                                 
> > > <artifactId>jxl</artifactId>
> > >                                         </exclusion>
> > >                                 </exclusions>
> > >                         </dependency>
> > >
> > >
> > > -Stephen
> > >
> > > On 11/19/05, Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I've been using Spring 1.2.5 in my project for the past couple of
> > > > weeks.  The transitive dependencies feature of M2 has seemed to work
> > > > great b/c there were no dependencies for Spring.
> > > >
> > > >          <dependency>
> > > >             <artifactId>spring</artifactId>
> > > >             <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> > > >             <version>1.2.5</version>
> > > >         </dependency>
> > > >
> > > > However, as of today (possibly earlier, since I just deleted my local
> > > > repo this morning), I now have to exclude a whole bunch of
> > > > dependencies.  Below is a list of ones I had to exclude just for M2 to
> > > > download everything and run "mvn test". To really clean this up and
> > > > prevent a bunch of unused JARs in my project, it's likely I'd have to
> > > > greatly expand this list to include quartz, freemarker, velocity, etc.
> > > >
> > > > (more comments after the xml below)
> > > >
> > > >          <dependency>
> > > >             <artifactId>spring</artifactId>
> > > >             <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> > > >             <version>1.2.5</version>
> > > >             <exclusions>
> > > >                 <exclusion>
> > > >                     <artifactId>activation</artifactId>
> > > >                     <groupId>javax.activation</groupId>
> > > >                 </exclusion>
> > > >                 <exclusion>
> > > >                     <artifactId>mail</artifactId>
> > > >                     <groupId>javax.mail</groupId>
> > > >                 </exclusion>
> > > >                 <exclusion>
> > > >                     <artifactId>toplink-api</artifactId>
> > > >                     <groupId>com.oracle</groupId>
> > > >                 </exclusion>
> > > >                 <exclusion>
> > > >                     <artifactId>ejb</artifactId>
> > > >                     <groupId>javax.persistence</groupId>
> > > >                 </exclusion>
> > > >                 <exclusion>
> > > >                     <artifactId>ejb</artifactId>
> > > >                     <groupId>javax.ejb</groupId>
> > > >                 </exclusion>
> > > >                 <exclusion>
> > > >                     <artifactId>jta</artifactId>
> > > >                     <groupId>javax.transaction</groupId>
> > > >                 </exclusion>
> > > >                 <exclusion>
> > > >                     <artifactId>connector</artifactId>
> > > >                     <groupId>javax.resource</groupId>
> > > >                 </exclusion>
> > > >                 <exclusion>
> > > >                     <artifactId>jaxrpc</artifactId>
> > > >                     <groupId>javax.xml</groupId>
> > > >                 </exclusion>
> > > >                 <exclusion>
> > > >                     <artifactId>jms</artifactId>
> > > >                     <groupId>javax.jms</groupId>
> > > >                 </exclusion>
> > > >             </exclusions>
> > > >         </dependency>
> > > >
> > > > Since spring.jar only depends on commons-logging, shouldn't the rest
> > > > of these be marked optional?  How did this change in the last couple
> > > > of days - did someone upload a new POM for Spring to ibiblio?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
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