Perhaps we should move this conversation to the Hibernate forum?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:54 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: JSF + Spring + Hibernate
> 
> Hi!
> >To me, it makes sense to use Transfer Objects,
> >  
> * How do you deal with versioning?
> 
> If you directly use the hibernate object and use lock() to 
> reassociate it you can use hibernates versioning check to see 
> if another user already changed this object too and can tell 
> the user its change is no longer valid.
> 
> You might have to do this yourself if you detach your object 
> into a transfer object, dont you?
> 
> 
> * How do you know which fields in your transfer object have changed?
> 
> You can use aspectj or simply booleans, but this also sound a 
> little bit 
> of duplicate programming with respect to hibernate which 
> already handles it.
> 
> 
> I am fully convinced it is best to reload hibernate objects 
> and utilize 
> the second level cache where possible, but when it comes to 
> "data change 
> forms" (user loads a record/edit it/save it some times later) 
> its better 
> to use a "page scoped" hibernate object.
> So in fact it would be great to have a method to reattach 
> those objects 
> before any other action will be executed.
> 
> What I would try is to give my hibernate object a marker interface 
> "PersistentObject" and create a converter for it. So x:saveState use 
> this converter and on recreation of this object it should be 
> possible to 
> reattach it. If it is a stale object a custom error page can 
> be displayed.
> 
> 
> ---
> Mario
> 
> 


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