Can you give an example of how this verbatim thing is causing you
problems? I tend to agree with the reasoning that Adam gave on this
one.
sean
On 11/17/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yes, my old friend f:loadBundle.
>
> major PITA, this thing ;)
>
> both that it is only evaluated in the JSP processing, but there only
> in the render response phase - shouldn't that happen much earlier?
> couldn't it be that we need the reference to an I18n text much earlier
> in the lifecycle?
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 11/17/05, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I see the problems, but i still think it should be possible to have
> > verbatim content inside of ajax updated components. And i don't see any
> > chance to partialy re-execute the relevant jsp files .
> >
> >
> > > - <c:if> will not re-execute, so if its condition has changed,
> > could be replaced by using rendered attribute on jsf tags
> >
> > > - Resource bundles provided by <f:loadBundle> will not be available
> > could be solved by a session scoped resource bundle tag
> >
> > > - Any EL expressions evaluated inside tags will not re-evaluate
> > I currently don't know of those, but IMHO the evaluation of EL
> > expressions should moved inside component or renderer than.
> >
> >
> > So, to enable ajax updated panels we need custom tags for verbatim and
> > loadbundle.
> >
> > Any more problems or other solutions ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Volker
> >
> >
> > Adam Winer wrote:
> > > This is required by the spec because:
> > >
> > > - Performance - in the general case, saving the state for these is a
> > > waste
> > > - Re-evaluation - if you've got, say, ${} EL expressions inside
> > > <f:verbatim>,
> > > or any dynamically generated content from a tag, you'd better re-run
> > > the
> > > JSP or you'll be showing stale content.
> > >
> > > The second problem is important and cannot be resolved by changing
> > > "transient" on f:verbatim.
> > >
> > > Note that you've got other, likely bigger problems if you attempt to
> > > render
> > > without re-executing the JSP:
> > > - <c:if> will not re-execute, so if its condition has changed, ah well
> > > - Resource bundles provided by <f:loadBundle> will not be available
> > > - Any EL expressions evaluated inside tags will not re-evaluate
> > >
> > > -- Adam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/16/05, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>i just came over a problem with verbatim tags in ajax enabled components.
> > >>see:
> > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/users%40myfaces.apache.org/msg12124.html
> > >>
> > >>The UIOutput components created for verbatim tags are not saved to state
> > >>because there are explicitly set to transient.
> > >>
> > >>This makes it impossible to use verbatim tags in content of ajax
> > >>components.
> > >>
> > >>Is there a spec reason for this, then we should have a tomahawk
> > >>verbatim, or is this just because of performance?
> > >>
> > >>If not a spec reason this should be changed because seems to be a bug.
> > >>
> > >>Regards
> > >> Volker
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