I agree people are starting to become less scared of JSF now and are
willing to take a second look.  What was the interest level at
JavaPolis?

Speaking of second looks, I'm installing Sun Java Studio Creator 2
(now that its free.)  Craig recommended that I take a look at some of
the new features.  Be sure to download the latest EA release (you have
to hunt around for it - its not the standard download.)

Anyways, lots of new things to try out after Apache Con ... Maybe you
can give us a brief summary of JavaPolis when you are done?

sean


On 12/14/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's good news!
>
> It's really interesting how much steam JSF (and MyFaces) has picked up
> in the last few months with regards to user interest.
>
> And thank goodness, I didn't hear anymore at JavaPolis that JSF is
> overly complicated. People complain about component development not
> being easy, but actually working with JSF as a web developer is seen
> as being pretty straightforward.
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 12/15/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just got back from Apache Con in San Diego.  It was very well
> > attended (one of the hotel staff told me there were over 500
> > attendees.)  Of special interest were the two MyFaces sessions
> > conducted by our own Matthias Wessendorf and Gerald Muellan.
> >
> > Both MyFaces sessions were extremely well attended.  The first session
> > was an overview of JSF and what MyFaces brings to the table.  I told
> > Matthias and Gerald that they could tell the seesion went well because
> > 90% stayed for another hour long session covering Ajax and MyFaces.
> >
> > Thanks to Matthias and Gerald for making the trip and putting all of
> > the hard work into the presentation.  I was proud to see them up there
> > on the stage representing our community.  The large turnout for the
> > sessions also seemed to mirror the recent trends on our mailing list.
> > There was certainly a lot of curiosity for MyFaces if not outright
> > interest.  Expect more newcomers to the mailing list after those
> > talks!
> >
> > There were also some interesting Struts sessions.  The first session
> > focused on what is now being called the Struts Action framework,
> > including some details on the recently announced WebWorks merger.  The
> > second session focused on Struts Shale.  That session was also well
> > attended.  I had not seen Craig's Shale talk until that point but it
> > was an excellent overview of the project.  Craig also unveiled a few
> > new editions that are coming to Shale, some of which he was working on
> > in between sessions at the conference.
> >
> > If you are a JSF developer you should definitely keep an eye on where
> > Shale is headed.  An alpha release is expected shortly and the entire
> > Struts team is working to collaborate on areas of overlap between the
> > Action and Shale frameworks.  This combined with more user feedback
> > should move this project along nicely.  Don't let the "alpha" status
> > fool you.  This is primarily so the API isn't locked up in the first
> > release.  Its definitely production ready though.  My team is
> > currently using it in my day job.
> >
> > Its an exciting time to be part of the Apache community.  I expect
> > more great things to come out of the next year.
> >
>
>
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