Sean Schofield schrieb:
> I personally love JBuilder but it is very pricey. 
I think you brought up the main point, now that the enterprise stuff
finally again is moving into sane domains pricewise (Thanks to Sun and
MyEclipse) Borland simply cannot afford to charge this money for their
stuff anymore.
Borland started as a tools vendor with moderate prices at a time where
tools simply cost a fortune. So lots of people who wanted to learn
programming started to use their tools, lots of professionals as well
who could not afford the heavy priced alternatives.

Once Kahn was kicked out they lost this strategy and pushed a high price
strategy with Enterprise plastered all over it (probably a stupid idea
of some MBAs taking over internally)

> By JBuilder X they
> really worked out most of the kinks.  I tried Eclipse but everything
> was too much of a PITA to get working.  Every time I try switching to
> another IDE I just keep going back to good 'ole JBuilder.
> 
Well it never was the quality, yes JBuilder had some kinks but overall
the quality always was okay, the problem with Borland always was with
the management, not really knowing where there core assets and core
market was.
(The whole Inprise fiasco was self made, for the same reasons why people
were moving away from JBuilder in masses the last years)


The funny thing is that others like MyEclipse currently have huge
success with the same strategy Borland had 20 years ago.
But those companies are not driven by MBAs but by people who saw a need
for something like a cheap tool alternative to the expensive enterprise
IDEs because many developers simply cannot afford that stuff.

And just to sum it up, I have seen about 10 companies in the recent past
using MyEclipse and none using JBuilder anymore. The reason for most was
that the price was right and the tool was good enough.


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