You aren't alone :) After initial JSF learning curve, the only serious issue I had so far with tiles/JSF combo is inability to use Tomahawk aliasBeans when including tiles in the loop. But that can be circumvented by writing tile controller. Other than that, overriding TilesViewHandler lets you hook into view creation and rendering thus providing combined benefit of "tiled" layout and basis for development of the functionality similar to Shale's ViewController.
What is also nice here is the fact that Tiles itself have no learning curve to speak of. Attentive reading of "advanced-tiles" PDF file and looking at example provided with Myfaces are quite sufficient to get going. On the other hand, both Facelets and Shale/Clay are still too (IMO) immature to become a basis for serious production app. Next year maybe... -----Original Message----- From: Bjørn T Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:59:45 +0100 Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg Reddin wrote: > > > > On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Murat Hazer wrote: > > > >> Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF, > >> or is there any other good templating framework for JSF? > > > > > > If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd > > recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with > > either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF > > technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and > > the integration can be problematic. If you like Tiles I'd ask you to > > check out the Standalone version that is currently in the sandbox. A > > (mostly) working version is available and I am trying to push forward > > with it. By the end of that process it will be much easier to use > > Tiles with JSF, although still probably not seamless. Stay tuned. > > > > Greg > > > > > I can second that, although the tiles approach in JSF is way saner with > 1/3rd less glue code in xml thank in Struts, it still is a somewhat > rough experience, with many internal issues. > If you can, omit tiles and go for something else. > The options have been mentioned. > I was just wondering what I am missing? I am running JSF and Tiles and have no problem using them together; am I doing something wrong? :) Regards, BTJ

