My last startup is www.collectrium.com. We use AWS/py/django. This was my first non-Java app & I missed strong typing. django's template language is verbose & there's not much of a widget library. So I'm back to Java. AWS avoids setting up a data center (as co-founder of IGN.com, I don't miss managing 1,000 servers) but one still must manage the OS & scaling. So I'm trying appengine.
jsf's attractions are validation, data binding, component model, component libraries. Too bad it doesn't include safe HTML (ala http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/doc/latest/ReleaseNotes.html#SafeHtml) but it should be easy to wrap text components. Too bad the component library suppliers won't rally around a standard look-&-feel so one could mix components. I like gwt but it doesn't have validation & SEO is too hard. I might use gwt for editing functionality & a lightweight template language (which doesn't require a servlet container or mock for unit testing) like freemarker for browsing functionality. My current startup is a productivity tool in the cloud. I hope it will be used by many people of course. I'm using IntelliJ & appengine 1.3.8. From my web.xml: <context-param> <param-name>com.sun.faces.expressionFactory</param-name> <param-value>com.sun.el.ExpressionFactoryImpl</param-value> </context-param> >From my pom.xml: <dependency> <groupId>javax.el</groupId> <artifactId>el-api</artifactId> <version>2.2</version> </dependency> <dependency> <groupId>org.glassfish.web</groupId> <artifactId>el-impl</artifactId> <version>2.2</version> </dependency> When I run the app, the log shows: INFO: Either you haven't specified the ExpressionFactory implementation, or an error occured while instantiating the implementation you've specified. However, attempting to load a known implementation. The app works but I wonder why. I'm having trouble w/ primefaces too. Finally, what's the correct way to implement an editor action? The managed bean needs to be initialized before rendering it. So instead of invoking the no-arg constructor, I want something like: Foo(id) to be invoked. On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Kito Mann <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Ken, > > There's definitely a lot of activity in the JSF world, and it's used by a > lot of large and smaller companies (see http://www.javaserverfaces.org/for > a list of sites built using JSF or Seam under "JSF in Production"). There > are a variety of industries, but it's quite popular in Finance (banks and > insurance companies). > > In terms of active development, you can just look at the recent releases to > see there's a lot going on. > > It's worthwhile also to point out that Trinidad is used as the foundation > for all of the Oracle Fusion applications. > > What sort of application is your startup intending to build with MyFaces? > --- > Kito D. Mann | twitter: kito99 | Author, JSF in Action > Virtua, Inc. | http://www.virtua.com | JSF/Java EE training and consulting > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info | > twitter: > jsfcentral > +1 203-404-4848 x3 > > Public JSF 2 Training this January in London: JSF 2 Update for JSF 1.x > users > (http://bit.ly/jsf2updatecourse< > http://skillsmatter.com/course/java-jee/jsf2-update-course>) > and JSF 2 in Action > (http://bit.ly/jsf2course< > http://skillsmatter.com/course/java-jee/jsf-and-ajax> > ) > > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:44 AM, ken keller <[email protected]> wrote: > > > 1Mpvs/day on which URL? > > > > mojarra looks inactive: > > http://java.net/projects/mojarra/lists > > The richfaces team seems to prefer mojarra to myfaces. Given the effort > > being devoted to richfaces & primefaces atop jsf2, one would think there > > would be much more activity on the lists. > > > > I've posted twice over the last few months about > > javax.faces.application.ViewExpiredException > > thrown on appengine but nobody replied. > > > > http://www.irian.at/myfaces_support > > costs $5,300/yr for basic support--$10,600 for advanced. My startup can't > > afford this--especially without trying it first--perhaps a paygo option. > > > > I haven't studied the source code to see if there's unit testing. > > > > As compelling as jsf2 is, I'm scared to bet my startup on it. > > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > With the pretty fast development on the spec side (last year 2.0, last > > week > > > 2.1 - thanks Ed!) there is a very steady development going on atm. Also > > > remember that EE6 is pretty fresh. > > > > > > So while there is currently not that much traffic on the us...@mf list > > > there is pretty much of it on the dev list atm. > > > The move from JSF-1.x to JSF-2.x is still to be done for most of the > > legacy > > > projects, but there are a few JFS-2 projects already in production with > > lot > > > of success (we currently serve ~ 1 mio page hits per day with > MyFaces-2, > > > OpenWebBeans, CODI, OpenJPA2 and our servers are pretty 'cold') > > > > > > LieGrue, > > > strub > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > From: Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: myfaces popularity > > > > To: "MyFaces Discussion" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 7:44 AM > > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:28 AM, ken > > > > keller <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > This mailing list isn't very active. Most of the > > > > messages seem to be about > > > > > component libs like Trinidad. > > > > > > > > > > Is myfaces popular? > > > > > > > > yes it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't a searchable group be more convenient than a > > > > mailing list? > > > > > > > > the archives *are* searchable (e.g. markmail). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
