short addition: with myfaces codi also beans annotated with @ManagedBean are normal cdi beans (automatically).
regards, gerhard http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2010/12/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]> > +1, with CDI you would be able to simply @Inject all your needed > parameters. In general I'd say that one should generally use CDI instead of > the JSF @ManagedBean mechanism. > > LieGrue, > strub > > --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Jakob Korherr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Jakob Korherr <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: myfaces popularity > > To: "MyFaces Discussion" <[email protected]> > > Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 3:45 PM > > ... or, you know, use CDI for your > > managed beans ;) > > > > Regards, > > Jakob > > > > 2010/12/4 Jakob Korherr <[email protected]>: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Sorry, I just skimmed your mail, but for your last > > point > > > > > >>Finally, what's the correct way to implement an > > editor action? The managed > > >>bean needs to be initialized before rendering it. > > So instead of invoking the > > >>no-arg constructor, I want something like: > > >>Foo(id) > > >>to be invoked. > > > > > > you can use a no-arg constructor and an init method > > annotated with > > > @PostConstruct. So something like this: > > > > > > @PostConstruct > > > private void init() { // init bean here } > > > > > > However, you can't pass arguments neither to the > > constructor nor to > > > this init method. You need to 1) get everything you > > need from the > > > context or 2) set them from outside via setter > > methods. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jakob > > > > > > 2010/12/3 ken keller <[email protected]>: > > >> My last startup is www.collectrium.com. We use > > AWS/py/django. This was my > > >> first non-Java app & I missed strong typing. > > django's template language is > > >> verbose & there's not much of a widget > > library. So I'm back to Java. AWS > > >> avoids setting up a data center (as co-founder of > > IGN.com, I don't miss > > >> managing 1,000 servers) but one still must manage > > the OS & scaling. So I'm > > >> trying appengine. > > >> > > >> jsf's attractions are validation, data binding, > > component model, component > > >> libraries. Too bad it doesn't include safe HTML > > (ala > > >> > http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/doc/latest/ReleaseNotes.html#SafeHtml) > > but > > >> it should be easy to wrap text components. Too bad > > the component library > > >> suppliers won't rally around a standard > > look-&-feel so one could mix > > >> components. > > >> > > >> I like gwt but it doesn't have validation & > > SEO is too hard. I might use gwt > > >> for editing functionality & a lightweight > > template language (which doesn't > > >> require a servlet container or mock for unit > > testing) like freemarker for > > >> browsing functionality. > > >> > > >> My current startup is a productivity tool in the > > cloud. I hope it will be > > >> used by many people of course. > > >> > > >> I'm using IntelliJ & appengine 1.3.8. From my > > web.xml: > > >> > > >> <context-param> > > >> > > <param-name>com.sun.faces.expressionFactory</param-name> > > >> > > <param-value>com.sun.el.ExpressionFactoryImpl</param-value> > > >> </context-param> > > >> > > >> From my pom.xml: > > >> > > >> <dependency> > > >> <groupId>javax.el</groupId> > > >> <artifactId>el-api</artifactId> > > >> <version>2.2</version> > > >> </dependency> > > >> <dependency> > > >> > > <groupId>org.glassfish.web</groupId> > > >> <artifactId>el-impl</artifactId> > > >> <version>2.2</version> > > >> </dependency> > > >> > > >> When I run the app, the log shows: > > >> > > >> INFO: Either you haven't specified the > > ExpressionFactory implementation, or > > >> an error occured while instantiating the > > implementation you've specified. > > >> However, attempting to load a known > > implementation. > > >> > > >> The app works but I wonder why. > > >> > > >> I'm having trouble w/ primefaces too. > > >> > > >> Finally, what's the correct way to implement an > > editor action? The managed > > >> bean needs to be initialized before rendering it. > > So instead of invoking the > > >> no-arg constructor, I want something like: > > >> Foo(id) > > >> to be invoked. > > >> > > >> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Kito Mann <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hello Ken, > > >>> > > >>> There's definitely a lot of activity in the > > JSF world, and it's used by a > > >>> lot of large and smaller companies (see > http://www.javaserverfaces.org/for > > >>> a list of sites built using JSF or Seam under > > "JSF in Production"). There > > >>> are a variety of industries, but it's quite > > popular in Finance (banks and > > >>> insurance companies). > > >>> > > >>> In terms of active development, you can just > > look at the recent releases to > > >>> see there's a lot going on. > > >>> > > >>> It's worthwhile also to point out that > > Trinidad is used as the foundation > > >>> for all of the Oracle Fusion applications. > > >>> > > >>> What sort of application is your startup > > intending to build with MyFaces? > > >>> --- > > >>> Kito D. Mann | twitter: kito99 | Author, JSF > > in Action > > >>> Virtua, Inc. | http://www.virtua.com | JSF/Java EE > > training and consulting > > >>> http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer > > Faces FAQ, news, and info | > > >>> twitter: > > >>> jsfcentral > > >>> +1 203-404-4848 x3 > > >>> > > >>> Public JSF 2 Training this January in London: > > JSF 2 Update for JSF 1.x > > >>> users > > >>> (http://bit.ly/jsf2updatecourse< > > >>> http://skillsmatter.com/course/java-jee/jsf2-update-course>) > > >>> and JSF 2 in Action > > >>> (http://bit.ly/jsf2course< > > >>> http://skillsmatter.com/course/java-jee/jsf-and-ajax> > > >>> ) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:44 AM, ken keller > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > 1Mpvs/day on which URL? > > >>> > > > >>> > mojarra looks inactive: > > >>> > http://java.net/projects/mojarra/lists > > >>> > The richfaces team seems to prefer > > mojarra to myfaces. Given the effort > > >>> > being devoted to richfaces & > > primefaces atop jsf2, one would think there > > >>> > would be much more activity on the > > lists. > > >>> > > > >>> > I've posted twice over the last few > > months about > > >>> > > > javax.faces.application.ViewExpiredException > > >>> > thrown on appengine but nobody replied. > > >>> > > > >>> > http://www.irian.at/myfaces_support > > >>> > costs $5,300/yr for basic > > support--$10,600 for advanced. My startup can't > > >>> > afford this--especially without trying it > > first--perhaps a paygo option. > > >>> > > > >>> > I haven't studied the source code to see > > if there's unit testing. > > >>> > > > >>> > As compelling as jsf2 is, I'm scared to > > bet my startup on it. > > >>> > > > >>> > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Mark > > Struberg <[email protected]> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > Hi! > > >>> > > > > >>> > > With the pretty fast development on > > the spec side (last year 2.0, last > > >>> > week > > >>> > > 2.1 - thanks Ed!) there is a very > > steady development going on atm. Also > > >>> > > remember that EE6 is pretty fresh. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > So while there is currently not that > > much traffic on the us...@mf list > > >>> > > there is pretty much of it on the > > dev list atm. > > >>> > > The move from JSF-1.x to JSF-2.x is > > still to be done for most of the > > >>> > legacy > > >>> > > projects, but there are a few JFS-2 > > projects already in production with > > >>> > lot > > >>> > > of success (we currently serve ~ 1 > > mio page hits per day with > > >>> MyFaces-2, > > >>> > > OpenWebBeans, CODI, OpenJPA2 and our > > servers are pretty 'cold') > > >>> > > > > >>> > > LieGrue, > > >>> > > strub > > >>> > > > > >>> > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Matthias > > Wessendorf <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > From: Matthias Wessendorf > > <[email protected]> > > >>> > > > Subject: Re: myfaces > > popularity > > >>> > > > To: "MyFaces Discussion" <[email protected]> > > >>> > > > Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, > > 7:44 AM > > >>> > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:28 AM, > > ken > > >>> > > > keller <[email protected]> > > >>> > > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > This mailing list isn't > > very active. Most of the > > >>> > > > messages seem to be about > > >>> > > > > component libs like > > Trinidad. > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Is myfaces popular? > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > yes it is. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Wouldn't a searchable > > group be more convenient than a > > >>> > > > mailing list? > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > the archives *are* searchable > > (e.g. markmail). > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > -- > > >>> > > > Matthias Wessendorf > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > >>> > > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > >>> > > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jakob Korherr > > > > > > blog: http://www.jakobk.com > > > twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr > > > work: http://www.irian.at > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jakob Korherr > > > > blog: http://www.jakobk.com > > twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr > > work: http://www.irian.at > > > > > >
