Yes, I know I am part of the community, and yes, I have spent my "free time" in colaborating with several open source projects and creating some little patches to Trinidad. I know about open source and I know about community that supports it, and you are right, time is finite and all of we have lots of things to do. 1.0 it's not a good example, you're right. I'm sorry if my words have offended to anyone.
Rafa On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: > What? Your example is the 1.0 branch? Let me ask you this.. If > MyFaces 1.0 and 1.1 receiving active development? What about he R.I.? > What about Tomcat 3 or 4 or 5? > > The 1.0 branch is old and we supported it, IMO, until well beyond when > most projects would have abandoned it. Further, there are only so > many hours in the day and the community, as a whole, needs to either > do this work in their spare time or because of what they need to do > for their real jobs. > > That's not a community issue, but one of open source. > > Look at it this way, all that development that used to go into 1.0 is > now going into 1.2. All of the development that used to go into 1.2 > is now going into 2.0. That's the natural progression of things. > > And let us not forget either that 'YOU' are the community.. If you > wanted to see active development on 1.0, then it's your right to speak > up. I, for one, think that the Trinidad community benefits from more > voices. > > Apache, after all, is not about product, it's about people. > > Scott > > On Mar 5, 2011, at 5:46 AM, "Rafa Pérez" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, I think one of the principal problem is that there is not much >> documentation on Trinidad's internals... it's quite difficult to >> create a new renderkit if you don't know how to do it. >> And yes, community it's not very active on Trinidad's development... >> just see 1.0.x branch is being abandoned... >> >> Regards, >> >> -- Rafa >> >> >> 2011/3/4 Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]>: >>> Yeah, makes total sense. I mean heck, Trinidad's extendability and >>> plugability are second to none in that regard. >>> >>> I know I, for one, would lobe to see an new/enhanced renderkit to beef up >>> the Trinidad system and it's been talked about several times about having a >>> series off "Additional" renderkits added, but nobody's actually buckled down >>> and done it. ;) >>> >>> If there are any takers, by all means I can provide some infrastructure for >>> you to do all your work. >>> >>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Walter Mourão <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Scott >>> >>> When I first started with Trinidad, before the thing moved over to >>>> Apache, the AJAX was still using iframes instead of >>>> HttpServletRequest. :) >>>> >>> >>> me too! >>> >>> I mean as far as Rich Renderkits go, Trinidad was one of the >>>> earliest. Many other renderkits got to take advantage of newer >>>> technologies. >>>> >>> >>> Yes... maybe that's the point: what about creating a new render kit using >>> JQuery (for example) ? Trinidad has rock solid back end and, the same way >>> there is a pda render kit, it could exist a JQuery render kit. Does it make >>> sense ? >>> >>> >>> Walter Mourão >>> http://waltermourao.com.br >>> http://arcadian.com.br >>> http://oriens.com.br >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe. I mean as far as Rich Renderkits go, Trinidad was one of the >>>> earliest. Many other renderkits got to take advantage of newer >>>> technologies. >>>> >>>> When I first started with Trinidad, before the thing moved over to >>>> Apache, the AJAX was still using iframes instead of >>>> HttpServletRequest. :) >>>> >>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Dominik Dorn <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's maybe that people want fancy JQuery/Javascript components like >>>>> those used everywhere else >>>>> on the web and primefaces has those (its basically just a wrapper around >>>> em). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2011/3/4 Walter Mourão <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this because of the commercial backing of the other two? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think so... as far as I know there are companies offering >>>> Trinidad >>>>>> support/consulting (Irian <http://www.irian.at/trinidad_support/>, for >>>>>> example). Not sure about the level of commitment of these companies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Walter Mourão >>>>>> http://waltermourao.com.br >>>>>> http://arcadian.com.br >>>>>> http://oriens.com.br >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:49 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've had similar concerns. until recently there hadn't been any >>>> apparent >>>>>>> movement in Trinidad development. Is this because of the commercial >>>> backing >>>>>>> of the other two? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2011 5:53am, Walter Mourão <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'ma happy Trinidad user, so far, but I'ma bit worried about its >>>> future. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm seeing the evolution of Icefaces, Richfaces and (mainly) >>>> Primefaces >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I feel like Trinidad isn't going with the same pace. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am I right ? What do you think ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Walter Mourão >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://waltermourao.com.br >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://arcadian.com.br >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://oriens.com.br >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dominik Dorn >>>>> http://dominikdorn.com >>>>> http://twitter.com/domdorn >>>>> >>>>> Tausche Deine Lernunterlagen auf http://www.studyguru.eu ! >>>> >>> >
