No offense. ;) I was just surprised. On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:18 AM, "Rafa Pérez" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, I know I am part of the community, and yes, I have spent my "free > time" in colaborating with several open source projects and creating > some little patches to Trinidad. I know about open source and I know > about community that supports it, and you are right, time is finite > and all of we have lots of things to do. > 1.0 it's not a good example, you're right. I'm sorry if my words have > offended to anyone. > > > Rafa > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: >> What? Your example is the 1.0 branch? Let me ask you this.. If >> MyFaces 1.0 and 1.1 receiving active development? What about he R.I.? >> What about Tomcat 3 or 4 or 5? >> >> The 1.0 branch is old and we supported it, IMO, until well beyond when >> most projects would have abandoned it. Further, there are only so >> many hours in the day and the community, as a whole, needs to either >> do this work in their spare time or because of what they need to do >> for their real jobs. >> >> That's not a community issue, but one of open source. >> >> Look at it this way, all that development that used to go into 1.0 is >> now going into 1.2. All of the development that used to go into 1.2 >> is now going into 2.0. That's the natural progression of things. >> >> And let us not forget either that 'YOU' are the community.. If you >> wanted to see active development on 1.0, then it's your right to speak >> up. I, for one, think that the Trinidad community benefits from more >> voices. >> >> Apache, after all, is not about product, it's about people. >> >> Scott >> >> On Mar 5, 2011, at 5:46 AM, "Rafa Pérez" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Well, I think one of the principal problem is that there is not much >>> documentation on Trinidad's internals... it's quite difficult to >>> create a new renderkit if you don't know how to do it. >>> And yes, community it's not very active on Trinidad's development... >>> just see 1.0.x branch is being abandoned... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> -- Rafa >>> >>> >>> 2011/3/4 Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]>: >>>> Yeah, makes total sense. I mean heck, Trinidad's extendability and >>>> plugability are second to none in that regard. >>>> >>>> I know I, for one, would lobe to see an new/enhanced renderkit to beef up >>>> the Trinidad system and it's been talked about several times about having a >>>> series off "Additional" renderkits added, but nobody's actually buckled >>>> down >>>> and done it. ;) >>>> >>>> If there are any takers, by all means I can provide some infrastructure for >>>> you to do all your work. >>>> >>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Walter Mourão <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Scott >>>> >>>> When I first started with Trinidad, before the thing moved over to >>>>> Apache, the AJAX was still using iframes instead of >>>>> HttpServletRequest. :) >>>>> >>>> >>>> me too! >>>> >>>> I mean as far as Rich Renderkits go, Trinidad was one of the >>>>> earliest. Many other renderkits got to take advantage of newer >>>>> technologies. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes... maybe that's the point: what about creating a new render kit using >>>> JQuery (for example) ? Trinidad has rock solid back end and, the same way >>>> there is a pda render kit, it could exist a JQuery render kit. Does it make >>>> sense ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Walter Mourão >>>> http://waltermourao.com.br >>>> http://arcadian.com.br >>>> http://oriens.com.br >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Scott O'Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Maybe. I mean as far as Rich Renderkits go, Trinidad was one of the >>>>> earliest. Many other renderkits got to take advantage of newer >>>>> technologies. >>>>> >>>>> When I first started with Trinidad, before the thing moved over to >>>>> Apache, the AJAX was still using iframes instead of >>>>> HttpServletRequest. :) >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Dominik Dorn <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's maybe that people want fancy JQuery/Javascript components like >>>>>> those used everywhere else >>>>>> on the web and primefaces has those (its basically just a wrapper around >>>>> em). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/3/4 Walter Mourão <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this because of the commercial backing of the other two? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think so... as far as I know there are companies offering >>>>> Trinidad >>>>>>> support/consulting (Irian <http://www.irian.at/trinidad_support/>, for >>>>>>> example). Not sure about the level of commitment of these companies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Walter Mourão >>>>>>> http://waltermourao.com.br >>>>>>> http://arcadian.com.br >>>>>>> http://oriens.com.br >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:49 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've had similar concerns. until recently there hadn't been any >>>>> apparent >>>>>>>> movement in Trinidad development. Is this because of the commercial >>>>> backing >>>>>>>> of the other two? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2011 5:53am, Walter Mourão <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'ma happy Trinidad user, so far, but I'ma bit worried about its >>>>> future. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm seeing the evolution of Icefaces, Richfaces and (mainly) >>>>> Primefaces >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I feel like Trinidad isn't going with the same pace. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am I right ? What do you think ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Walter Mourão >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://waltermourao.com.br >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://arcadian.com.br >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://oriens.com.br >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dominik Dorn >>>>>> http://dominikdorn.com >>>>>> http://twitter.com/domdorn >>>>>> >>>>>> Tausche Deine Lernunterlagen auf http://www.studyguru.eu ! >>>>> >>>> >>
