I've also tried begging for contributions, it got me nowhere, I eventually
just settled for paying for them instead which moved me forward way quicker...
this is just my personal experience, I can't speak for everyone and I'm humbled
by the development of the IDE that is NetBeans.
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 10:57:31 GMT, Geertjan Wielenga
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Peter Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
Keep up your enthusiasm 😀 If you have time, contribute, if not then you will
need to wait patiently for the first version.Â
I would go a bit further than that and say that if, after Apache NetBeans is
released, and you find all kinds of issues, and you have been aware that you
could have participated in NetCAT (really, not more than one or two hours a
week is all the time needed to be spent) -- then you're likely to be told [ at
least by me! :-) ] that the issues that you find will not receive a very high
priority.
Gj
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On 7 Mar 2018 10:48, "Ashton Hogan" <[email protected] > wrote:
Maybe you're right.
I must say, based on my research, I truly believed commercial activity to be
the answer to revive NetBeans. Capitalism always outperforms socialism in
prosperity so why wouldn't capital work for NetBeans?
Sorry to hear that this won't work for NetBeans, I tried to help!
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 10:44:09 GMT, Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wielenga@googlemail. com> wrote:
All the time you have now spent in this discussion, which is clearly not going
to end with anyone spending the time to take your money, you could have spent
on signing up to the NetCAT process and then following step by step
instructions -- that don't require any special knowledge -- to help prepare
Apache NetBeans for its first official release.
Gj
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Ashton Hogan <[email protected] >
wrote:
True Jean-Michel, I understand NetBeans has a different business structure to
competitors as well though so it's not as easy. So you think it's impossible?
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 10:38:34 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Sometimes a project need time more than money.
And receiving money takes time! (Somebody needs to manage the money + any legal
around it, somebody need to hire the testers and managed them, etc...)
Jean-Michel
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, at 10:32, Ashton Hogan wrote:
What if my time is more productive elsewhere? I think there's an element of
assigning the right people to the right jobs. I have more money than time at
the moment, that's all I can offer.
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 09:57:25 GMT, Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wielenga@googlemail. com> wrote:
Nope. That excuse does not compute. :-) When you participate in NetCAT, you get
step by step instructions for what to test, how, and where.
We don’t want your money, we want your time.
Gj
On Wednesday, March 7, 2018, [email protected] <[email protected]>
wrote:
I would love to but I just don't have the necessary knowledge and skills to do
a good job at it. If we had a piggy bank, it would come in handy to pay for
skills when contributors are running low though, surely?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!
From: Geertjan Wielenga
To: [email protected]. apache.org
CC:
Well, for the moment, the very best way to contribute back to Apache NetBeans
is to be involved here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/ confluence/display/NETBEANS/ NetCAT
In fact, that's more useful at this stage than money. :-)
Gj
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:46 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]>
wrote:
It's available https://www.name.com/domain/se arch/netbeansfield.com
Sent from my Huawei Mobile
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!
From: John Muczynski
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected] e.org,geertjan.wielenga@google mail.com
Maybe a NetBeans field -- BeanField -- as in a field where beans are grown.
--
Johnny Muczynski
734-262-2045
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 12:13 PM Ashton Hogan <[email protected] >
wrote:
I like it, I like it a lot. Let's do it!
On Tuesday, 6 March 2018, 17:01:20 GMT, Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wielenga@googlemail. com> wrote:
Thanks for the enthusiasm. :-) As an Apache project, NetBeans will not be able
to earn money directly -- all money coming into Apache goes to the foundation
as a whole:
http://www.apache.org/foundati on/sponsorship.html
However, potentially, there could be an organization that we set up together
comparable to Tomitribe (tomitribe.com), i.e., Apache TomEE (tomee.apache.org)
has an external organization that provides support and so on -- and also
receives money. I.e., we could have a NetBeans Tribe or something like that,
which could offer advanced features or maybe fix bugs on demand or something
like that, in exchange for money.
Just a thought, though something for the future, if at all.
Gj
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Ashton Hogan <[email protected] >
wrote:
Hi all
Like all of you, I use NetBeans to build my own projects. Lately I've noticed a
particular competitor IDE being demanded more on job specs and wondered how
they managed to grow so big so quick. Turns out they sell licenses as well as
offering a free version. I, myself, as a user feel guilty benefitting as much
as I do from NetBeans and never having to pay a dime for it, even though I
would absolutely do so in a heartbeat given the opportunity. Is there any way
that NetBeans can make some income to support its longevity?Â
Thanks
AshtonÂ
