Does anyone else care to post a "holier than thou" note, or we done for the night? Anyone? Let's get it all out. Then those who remain can get back to actually helping users diagnose their problems rather than pontificate about software quality or list etiquette.
-Rob > On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Think <thinkta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have been quietly watching the notes back and forth and have only once or > twice ventured into the writing and reading space of this list. Once, someone > told me I digressed too much and that I was wrong for having bothered > everyone with my verbiage. I was like "wow, dude. I thought the listserv was > for talking about the product." > > Since then, I have been watching and reading. > > Personally, I am disgusted at how many of you treat each other. > > I am an advocate for disabled people. I "yell" at people for a "living" (I > don't get paid for it so I have to use the "".) And even I refuse to stoop so > low as to denigrate someone for being frustrated or for having newbie > problems. > > I am 53. I coded in Fortran in 1974. I was on a mainframe before most of you > knew what a computer was. I hand coded HTML from the early 90's until 2002. I > owned a brand development firm. I ran five businesses. My largest project > management job was a 14million$ project in my early 30's. I am currently > relearning CSS after going 12 years without coding a website, because I was > doing other things. I am learning it so I can direct our web designer and our > back end coder. > > Open office is interesting to me because our project, the elai Project, will > be licensed wholly under the Creative Commons License. So I wanted to specify > one all purpose software package for the project, and for every organization > that adopts the package. Initially, elai will help to make libraries > completely accessible to disabled people. Hospitals are next, with police > stations, and many other locally, state and federally funded organizations > following. > > But after watching you guys take pot shots at each other and work from an "I > don't have to be nice to anyone" paradigm, I am about to throw in the towel > on OO or alternatively to warn elai Project participants to stay away from > the listserv. > > Be nice. Grow up. Get outside of yourselves and help each other. Focus on > where you connect and not where you disagree. > > And posters: don’t assume that everyone is here to help you. They have their > own lives and their own jobs and their own families and priorities. Be > polite. Don't be a bull in a china shop. > > And if more experienced users set a good example, it's more likely the > newbies will follow suit. > > Likely this list needs a moderator. Does it have one? I am not stepping up > for the job, but someone with a sense of Zen and no fear of confrontation > should. > > If you want to flame me, you might want to think again. Most of your ISP's > have a policy of no spam/hate/scam/flame. I have reported people to their > ISP's before and I will do it again. There is a difference between free > speech and hate speech. Hate speech is not protected under the Constitution > and your ISP's won't tolerate it either. > > Please stop treating each other like garbage. For none of you is garbage. > Each of you just comes from your own singular perspective, some of you are > frustrated, some of you don't understand how this works and some of you need > some perspective. > > Perspective, best served up warm. > > Brenda Hart Neihouse > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 10:28 PM > To: users@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Reading and Exporting spreadsheets--another commentary > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers > <anthonyrudg...@att.net> wrote: >> Greetings All, >> >> Here's (imho) another example of the symptoms of the coding flaws inherent >> in the present OOo software suite. You do something according to one set of >> seemingly-valid protocols & get one result (or, perhaps, non-result), & then >> you do it according to another set of also-valid protocols, & get an >> entirely different result (or non-result). This, at least to me, would >> indicate that there are instances of differing, &, consequently, >> inconsistent, coding within OOo. I've experienced a similar inconsistency >> in OOo code in another area. >> >> I submit this query. Do proponents of OOo software, want to deal w/ & >> correct such problems, deny they exist, ignore them & "move on" (as embodied >> in the posting: "I'm tired of this thread, can't we talk about something >> else?"), throw up their hands & say that such inherent problems are just "a >> fact of life--so live w/ them," or, simply, verbally abuse & belittle the >> OOo users who point them out to this "community"? > > > So I take it that you have completely diagnosed the problem and > determined that it is a bug in OpenOffice and not a configuration > issue in Cygwin. Wow, that was fast! Maybe now that you've > troubleshooted and debugged the issue you would be so kind as to > submit a patch to fix it? Or write up a report in Bugzilla detailing > how you reproduced the problem and showed that it was an OpenOffice > issue? > > Regards, > > -Rob > > >> Best wishes, >> >> Anthony J. Rudgers >> Orlando, FL U.S.A. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Schwarz >> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 6:48 PM >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Reading and Exporting spreadsheets >> >> Win7 >> cygwin >> >> I created and saved a spreadsheet, 'ods' ,document. When I try to read it >> using my cygwin alias "alias ods='/ProgramFiles86/OpenOffice\ >> 4/program/scalc.exe'" it (basically) says "what's that" but when I use open >> office directly and use "Recent Documents" it seems to have no problem. is >> my alias correct? I use a similar alias for the writer (alias >> odt='/ProgramFiles86/OpenOffice\ 4/program/swriter.exe') and it works fine. >> >> Now comes the real puzzler (for me), when I export the spreadseet as a pdf >> file, the cygwin shell doesn't recognize it. That is, 'find', 'ls' don't >> recognize the file. It comes up with "no such directory or file. But when I >> go to the Windows explorer or import the file using Adobe, no problem. The >> filename is there bold as lightning. and I have no issue. On the other hand, >> using cygwin, I can't input the file to adobe. >> >> Now for the confounding aspect. Everything works as expected in the writer. >> I can create a pdf file, see it in cygwin, open and use it in adobe, list >> it, and I guess do everything needful. But not when I create a spreadsheet. >> >> Wait, wait. I have (yet) another mystery. When I open a new shell (but do >> not reboot), the new shell shows the created pdf file but now the ods file >> is missing. And, contrary to everything above, I can load the pdf file to >> adobe in the cygwin shell the exact opposite of above. >> >> >> Right now it's an irritation but is there something that I've done wrong or >> someway to fix the problem so that it shows up in by cygwin shell? >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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