On Tuesday 01 February 2005 09:39, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
> Crystle Numan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-01-30 at 10:06 +1100, Brian wrote:
> >>Hi Crystle,
> >>
> >>I often see you forwarding posts with the message "As you are not
> >> subscribed, you may not have seen:", like the one below. Is there a
> >> better way for me/us to handle these?
> >>When the subjecy contains [users][moderated] should I/we post also to the
> >> author?
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>
> >>Brian
> >
> > Brian:
> >
> > (I'm replying to the list so that others will know).
> >
> > Thanks for asking! I do this because I'm trying to help the moderators
> > (GRS & CPH). If I notice someone responds to another who is not
> > subscribed, I do this.
Thanks again for helping with this Crystle.

> > To tell if someone is not subscribed: look for the "Delivered-To:
> > moderator for [email protected]" header (third Delivered-To: header).
> > I do this by setting a filter to mark those purple in my evolution.
> >
> > Generally, it is best to reply to these people through the list, cc-ing
> > their address.
> >
> > The [users][moderator] is not always correct; the header is correct
> > always.
> >
> > Anyone who wants to chime in to set me straight if I've got the proper
> > etiquette wrong, please do.
>
> I have just seen another reason why I should migrate to Thunderbird from
> Mozilla mail :), but....
> I wonder what the purpose is of telling the list subscribers that an
> 'unwashed' person is not subscribed. Personally I couldn't give a hoot
> if they are or not.
> If they have the opportunity to post to the list  from the web whilst
> not being a subscriber, perhaps rather send their message through as the
> list does now, but automate the sending of the normal 'As you are not
> subscribed you may not have seen..'. 
I have a system to also do this. 

> Or if that cannot be done then if 
> the moderators feel the need to tell someone that they need to subscribe
> ala 'As you are not subscribed you may not have seen..', then rather
> just send the message to the original poster. The people on the list
> already have seen the posters message and do not need the additional
> traffic, especially those on  dial-up. Why do they need to know that
> someone isn't subscribed? Sure its handy if they see the moderators note
> before replying to the message but otherwise?
It's also a reminder to those who reply to unsubscribed users so that they can 
make sure that in future their message actually gets to the users. Please do 
not forget that many users are not advanced and really do appreicate the fact 
that we do CC: them. See teh number of "Thanks you's" on the list or replies 
*only* when the user is CC:ed. 

BTW: have a look in the archive to see previous discussions on this.

> The notification about someone not being subscribed is by no means
> anything to do with OOo. Personally I think the OOo web page should be
> changed to allow people to submit via the web BUT warn them that they
> will not receive any replies unless they are subscribed to the list ie
> subscribe to the list and then ask the question.
Your help would be greatly appreciated in helping to set this up or to improve 
the situation.

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CPH : openoffice.org contributor

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