Thanks to all those making suggestions, chris bonde got it, keep doing 
the same thing till it goes, ie selecting paragraphs above the border and 
keep trying to format them, after quite a few tries it worked. Odd to try 
something again that didn't work the previous time. thanks Chris.

as for G. Roderick Singleton standard read the manual type reply, once 
I knew the problem was an autoformat problem I did read the archives, 
I didn't find anyone stating try doing the same thing over and over 
again until it works. I've been on this list since August 2002, helping 
quite a few people out where I can, usually directly as I don't like my 
email address appearing on a publicly accessable website (spam you 
know), but with leaders like G. Roderick Singleton I don't know whether 
I'll bother anymore

thanks again to those who helped


> You just have to go up until it goes.  I had the same thing happen to me.
> 
> Turn on display unprintable characters, then delete each para marker above 
> the line
> 
> Chris
> 
> > thanks for the explanation of what the double line is and how I came
> > by it, but your suggestions to remove it don't seem to work. they just
> > shuffle it up one line, its almost as if it was write protected or
> > something, I change the setting to none,  click ok, it's still there,
> > go back to the dialog it has gone back to 4.5pt. try changing the line
> > arrangement to "set no border" it disappears in preview window but not
> > in the doc. click ok, it still there go back to the dialog, it's still
> > set for 4.5pt bottom border. can't easily copy the text to a new doc,
> > as I lose the layout of all the pictures in my doc.........a little
> > annoying. just tried to remove it in 1.9 still no joy, I can create a
> > new paragraph border and remove/ restyle that, but the old one that I
> > don't want always remains.
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