On 10/04/2008 04:35 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: > > In a related post, I asked what people thought about just eliminating > the "goodbye" confirmation. I don't think malicious unsubscribes are > either likely or particularly harmful, and it would be much easier to > deal with malicious subscribes. The unsubscribe process could send a > message, but not require response, and that would mean that once the > subscription account was known, anybody could do the unsubscribe. So > when we got one of these "please unsubscribe me" posts, we could just do > it, or tell an apparently unsubscribed OP to look at a full message > header to identify the subscriber, then use the > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to unsubscribe. Haven't > heard any response to that idea yet.
I think that is not a good idea. Without the "goodbye" confirmation anyone could possibly unsubscribe you, or anyone else on the list. Malicious subscribes can only occur if someone has control of an account and can respond to the "you have subscribed" confirmation email. If someone has control of the email account and is using it to subscribe it to mailing lists it is already too late; the email account has been already compromised, and should be discarded or the user should have the email account password reset & monitored by the email account provider. The Chuck case is a little confusing, but not altogether unusual. He claims that his sbcglobal account was compromised, then a gmail account that does not belong to him is forwarding list emails to his sbcglobal account: > Please delete/unsubscribe the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > from all Google lists. This is NOT my email address and is an > address used to harass my business. I would like to know where this > email originates so that I can pursue legal action. > > My email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been hijacked by > this emailer where I have been forwarded hundreds of lists to my > business clogging up my mailbox for the past several weeks. > > Chuck Evans 1. First off he should take the issue to the provider of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] account (Google) and file an abuse request that all email from that account stop forwarding to his sbcglobal account. 2. He should simply log into his AT&T (sbcglobal.net) account and blacklist [EMAIL PROTECTED] and and tag [EMAIL PROTECTED] as spam. Note my posting address; I have an sbcglobal.net account so I know how easy it is to block emails from any particular email address. 3. He should realize that his email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] hasn't been hijacked by anybody and that the issue seems to be the forwarded emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now Chuck is trying to unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED], and that email address does not belong to him, at least according to his postings. He apparently hadn't figured out how to simply unsubsribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] (he was still posting via that email address in all of his unsubscribe spam). Had he done that (and he obviously knows the password to that account) and then blocked/trashed/dev-nulled any and all emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] we wouldn't be having this discussion. What if Chuck thought that Barbara Duprey or NoOp were the culprit and tried to unsubscribe us instead? Without a "goodbye" email we'd be dropped from the list and have to spend our time trying to get things sorted out to get subscribed again. What if as soon as we subscribed again the same culprit unsub'ed us again, and again, and again? I know that I'd be pretty pissed off if that happened & figure that you would as well. In the end Chuck's hot sauce products look pretty good... but the issue with the list is entirely his own problem. Too bad that we probably can't get him back as a valid OOo user - looks like he could actually use & probably appreciate OOo for his business were circumstances different. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
