I learned to use computer in the age of dinosaurs where you had to sit
for 4 hours hacking in strings and strings of code to get the computer
to provide you with snowflakes falling on a gray background (apple 2C)
I learned keypunch, and made data cards when no one had a home computer
and the only way to "talk" to a computer was with keypunch cards.
I belonged to a network (The ImagiNation Network: INN) when people just
weren't using the internet yet.
I was on the internet when you had to get through it through dos and a
program called Trumpet.
Most internet providers had long distance numbers and no one had 24 hr
access because it cost too much.
I learned windows 3.1, and had a little business on the side setting up
peoples computers and getting them connected to the internet through an
ISP - I've done a LOT of "handholding" :)
I taught myself how to use the programs that came with windows and I've
used Word for many years because it CAME with windows. Now suddenly you
have to purchase it along with Excel, Publisher, etc because Microsoft
decided they weren't making enough money.
I work more than full time hours and I also run a small business making
and selling jewelry, which means in my "spare" time I'm either making
jewelry, or setting up for shows to sell my jewelry, or working on my
web page to show my jewelry, or working on my inventory (which is a heck
of a lot of work).
I don't have time to run to 20 different sources trying to puzzle out
bits and pieces of why OO works or doesn't. and I did use Help. And
you're right, the answer was there but I missed it because OO divided up
Avery Labels into 3 sections instead of putting it all into one simple
list, in numerical order where it is easy to find the one you need. (as
microsoft does, why change a good thing?)
I do apologize if my asking the list for help interrupted your day. But
I do have a suggestion for you that may make your day easier - when you
find a post that you feel is beneath the right to be posted - hit DELETE.
I've found it works amazingly well.
In fact, I think I'll go use it right now! <wink>
Web Kracked wrote:
Twayne wrote:
Meenie1 wrote:
All I want to do is print some return address labels and they aren't
there.
this is the simple Avery 8167 (5267) return address labels. Why aren't
the basics in the write thing? :(
The more I use Open Office the more I dream of MS Office. It doesn't
seem to be worth the extra effort to do ANY little thing. !!
It's there:
--File: New; Labels; choose Labels tab if not already selected,
--Under Brand, select Avery Letter Size if you have letter size lable
sheets or A4 if you have A4 size label sheets.
--Under Type, choose 8167 (Inkjet Return Address).
Continue as needs dictate from there.
If you like MSOffice better, then use MSOffice. But Writer handles
it just fine if you take the time to read the dialogs and what's in
them. The major problem with computers is, they do what we TELL them
to do, not what we MEANT to do!
In the future, also try Help: it's described rather well there
too. Step by step even. Every once in awhile, people should actually
try to help themselves instead of expecting hand holding for every
little thing.
Personally, I try to eek out from the dialogs what I want and if if
I can't, I go to Help, then Google, often then to the OOo FAQs
and/or online help files, and then if I still can't find it, I'll ask
on this group. But I don't come here first: I assume people here
have better things to do than listen to my groaning about how much
better MSO is and hold my hand to tell me where the "anykey" is
located. Sometimes it's just a matter of unlearning old habits and
realizing OOo is NOT Word. What it is, is a very "low priced",
excellent version of a suite of files similar to but not the same as,
microsoft office. It even does quite a few things MS office can't do;
if I just take the time to figure it out, like I did with Word, way
back when, and WordStar before that, and VI before that, and Edlin
before that. And then there were the VAX machines, and Tymnet, and ...
Cheers,
Twayne
I did some clear labels the other day. OOo works great
when you need to do them. MS Word "required" me to go to
Avery and download their wizard to do Avery labels. It is
nice that OOo has them built in. Of course, you can always
go to Avery and download templates instead. The wizard works
only with Word, but between the OOo built in labels and the
templates that Avery has, you are set for almost every label
needs.
I know what Twayne is talking about, when he states to just
figure it out. I used PC-Write, then WordPerfect, the Word,
now OpenOffice.org. I had to figure things out myself for
most of all the things I did/do with these word processors.
I even had to write an editing program for RPG II on PDP/11 and
VAX machines that was easier to use than the junk we were to
use. I had to figure a lot of things out myself. BUT no more
with this list. It is not easy for my eyes to read an ebook
on this laptop, so manuals tend not to be read. This list
is great for easy (mostly) ways to do things. Thanks guys/gals
for that.
I still use may old/older software, since I already know how
to do my work using them. That, it seems to me, is one of the
biggest problems to get people to use OOo. I hate it when
I am told you are required to use "such and such" software to
do the work. The required software usually cost big money,
when most people cannot afford it. Just like colleges use to
require specific Apple laptops, or now a Blackberry, or other
thing.
Colleges require Word/office when the students need only a
word processor to do the work. That is the real joke.
Well, enough of that.
As I said, OOo makes labels easy. Then Avery makes templates
for all their labels that I have ever used or seen. So either
way, OOo can do the work easier, for me, than Word ever did.
Tim L.
retire, and tired of MS
and missing my wife, now that she is in a nursing facility.
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