Gene Heskett wrote:
On Friday 10 April 2009, John Boyle wrote:
Walter Hildebrandt wrote:
using 3.0 with WindowsXP. There is a PDF file on my desktop that I would
like to copy the contents into a OOo Writer file and be able to edit the
contents in the OOo Writer file. Can this be done?
To NoOp: I did try Linux for two years, and could NOT understand it nor
get enough help on a couple of points that would have made the
difference! My local supposed guru could care less to help people learn
Linux, unless you have a specific laptop and what he considers the
proper version! Needless to say, I dropped Linux a few months ago, and,
believe me, with my blood pressure and hypertension, I did NOT need the
aggravation! For 2 solid years I tried to learn and got no help, NADA,
ZIP, other than over the internet, which meant LOOOONG distance. IF
there is a LINUX that is user friendly, I CANNOT find it, and, I even
tried Ubuntu, to NO AVAIL! I hope that by the time MSFT drops support
for Win XP altogether, MAYBE then there will be a really usable version
of LINUX, but until then I am stuck with Windows! :-(
Part of the problem John, is starting to use windows n the first place. I
came to linux from a full blown Amiga, and before that a trash 80 color
computer. The amiga busted its gut and got retired, but the coco is still
operational, in fact I have 2 sessions of minicom accessing it right now, one
of them over bluetooth.
Out of all the linux boxes here, 5, this is the only fedora based box. One is
running busybox/dd-wrt, one is semi-retired, and 2 are running kubuntu of one
flavor or another, one fixed where its at by virtue of running emc to run my
small milling machine, the other is an experimental box called goat cuz its
sacrificial.
Not having learned most of the bad habits of windows has made it a lot easier
for me to use linux. And starting out with the coco and os9 as its os, I had
a lot of the *nix stuff already burned into my being before there was even a
windows to run.
BTW, I'm 74. And of course, YMMV. :) This list knows well that I still have
to yell for help.
Well you really are a Linux person. I started out on as a mainframe
programmer and bought my first PC in the mid 80's. I needed to since
my job was to support those boxes. So I started with PC-DOS and MS-DOS
and went through all of the Windows versions except ME. I also had
to learn several Flavors of Linux for a degree in Networking. But
my professional life was to support PCs running Windows, along with
mainframe programs written in COBOL and RPG II.
So I never really had the choice to use Linux like you did. There are
a few good things about Windows, as well as Linux. Just because a
guy/girl is using Windows does not mean that that is their problem.
I could not get Open SuSe on an IBM server machine that originally
had SuSe on it. That does not mean that Open SuSe is "bad". It
just would not install.
The original thread asked about taking a PDF file and read/edit its
content. There are trial/free PDF editors out there. There are also
sites that convert PDF files to Word files. What I do is view the
file in Acrobat Reader and then copy its contents and paste it in
OOo to edit it. Then I print it (or could export it) out using a
PDF "printer" like doPDF or PrimoPDF. I tried it the other day using
a catalog file and it worked for me.
I did it on a Laptop using Vista Home Premium. It also works on an
XP laptop and a Win2000 desktop/server. I assume that there is a
similar way you can do the same thing using various flavors of
Linux.
Just because the person is using something other than Linux, does
not make the OS the problem. I have friends that use Mac laptops.
Would you say to them that their Macs are the problem and they
should drop everything and convert over to Linux? I try to work
with their needs. I want to offer a "class" on creating and
maintaining web pages using "only" free and open source software.
The software I use for the Windows machines also have version for
Mac and Linux OS. So these Mac people can follow along with the
others who have Windows laptops, including the teacher. I do not
tell them they need to switch OS to do the work in my "class".
I find software that works for all of us.
That is what I was taught.
It is just like the race issue. I am white, but that does not mean
that other races are not equal. How about women? My father-in-law
taught at a women's college when they were "allowed to" get a
college degree and then was expected to just get married and have
children. Forget using their hard earned education. He taught
those women that they were equal to the men of that era and should
not give up their choice of having a good job as well as everything
else. He was from the south and felt the same way for the black
people he was dealing with. He had to leave the south due to his
"equal treatment" towards the black community.
So we are no longer having linch mobs for blacks asking for their
rights, so are we going to have a verbal linch mob for those who
do not use the OS or software of your choosing.
There was a statement of a Linux guru that would not or could not
support a Linux user since they were using a different flavor of
Linux. If he was worth anything at all, he would have helped that
user. Linux is Linux. There are bound to be differences, but
there are a lot of things that are the same. Yet, that guru would
or could not help just because the user was not using the guru's
choice of Linux flavors. That is not right.
I try to help all users who ask. I do not care what their preferred
system is, or their preferfed OS is. How about you? Would you
blame the OS if there is a problem with some part of OpenOffice.org?
That is my thoughts
Tim L.
retired and tired of MS, and those people who think they have
the only answer to the problem.
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