Mathias Bauer wrote:
> I think that this is more or less what I am trying to tell also. But
> to avoid the Pavlovian response that the word "ribbon" seems to
> create, I would like to use a different wording:

Again, see my point from the previous message:

Lars Nooden wrote:
> Copying a failure like "the ribbon" is still copying a failure like
> "the ribbon" no matter what new names it has.

-Lars

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