Cor Nouws wrote:

> Hi Lars,
> 
> Lars Nooden wrote (4-9-2009 14:52)
>> 
>> It is even more so to pretend that calling "the ribbon" by another name
>> will make everything ok.
> 
> If you mean this text by Matthias:
> 
> Mathias Bauer wrote (3-9-2009 10:34)
>> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> 
>>> What exactly are the arguments against the Microsoft Ribbon? If we
>>> know what the currently-perceived negative connotations of the Ribbon
>>> design are, then the OOo Ribbon could be engineered to avoid those
>>> pitfalls.
>> 
>> I think that this is more or less what I am trying to tell also. But to
>> avoid the Pavlovian response that the word "ribbon" seems to create, I
>> would like to use a different wording:
>> 
>> How can we create a context sensitive user interface that does not have
>> what people dislike in the ribbon?
> 
> ... then you really misunderstand him.
> It is about not using "ribbon", in order to be able to look at and talk 
> about facts, before people get blinded by a word alone, which would make 
> it very hard to come to any logic conclusion (regardless in which 
> direction that might be).

Thanks, finally someone understood what I meant. Your words explain it
even better than mine.

If people dislike what they see coming (or think what will coming) with
our prototype, I would like to hear what exactly they dislike - and I'm
sure the UX team will like to hear that even more! For exactly this
reason a lot of possible ways to collect feedback exist.

But again: just saying "it sucks" or "it's bad because it looks like the
r*****" is not sufficient to make a point.

Regards,
Mathias

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