M Henri Day wrote:
> 2009/9/6 Mathias Bauer <[email protected]>
>
>> Lars Nooden wrote:
>>
>> > Stop fucking around.
>> EOD for me. All your "contributions" to this discussion where full of
>> allegations, insinuations and now insults.
>>
>> Not my style.
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Mathias
>>
>> --
>> Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer
>> OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
>> Please don't reply to "[email protected]".
>> I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it.
>
>
> I find it sad when our most knowledgeable contributors lose their cool over
> an issue vital to the development of OOo. Let us try to deal with each other
> with the same respect and consideration we should like others to show us....
I'm not sure whom you are talking about. But let me put it this way:
I'm reading a lot of mailing lists in our project (I didn't count them,
but it must be around 16 or so). On most of them I'm just lurking, and
of course I'm not reading each and every mail (that wouldn't leave me
much time for working on the program ;-)). Casually I find some posts
where I think I could give some help or information, so I jumped in
here. I invested several hours to explain what I have seen as the
problem that a part of Renaissance wants to address with what the
prototype demonstrated. (Yes, Renaissance it not only about that, though
it's an important part of it.)
I not even tried to push people in any direction wrt. the prototype, I
just explained, gave some background and asked people for qualified
feedback (and the UX people working on Renaissance offer a lot of
different ways to give it). I even tried to keep my personal taste out
of the discussion (except when explicitly asked for it).
I will continue to discuss with people that are interested in an
objective discussion, but I don't see a reason to reply to insults
("politician's talk, "fucking around"), though I had asked for
objectivity not only once. And this comprises facts as well as style of
discussion. Insults usually are a sign of helplessness, so you might ask
why I care about that a lot, they at least prove that the insulters
failed to prove that I'm wrong. The reason is simple: I lack the time
for playing such games. I wasn't out for a flame war, I just wanted to
give information.
But it's not only about me. The UX people working on Renaissance have
put their entire heart into the project and cared a lot for community
involvement. There have been many public chats, blogs and mails about
Renaissance and the UX people worked very hard to keep that going and
collect and incorporate the feedback. They deserve a better treament
than insinuations that they just would be out for "aping" the r*****.
I understand that some people are not pleased by what they saw in the
prototype, but there is no reason to get so personal about that. I'm
sure the UX team will listen to every qualified and reasonable feedback
they receive.
Regards,
Mathias
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Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer
OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
Please don't reply to "[email protected]".
I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it.
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