In a message dated 2009.11.06 00:13 -0500, Tamblyne wrote:
... The people who are frustrated are making the same complaints and suggestions, and the moderators still have their hands tied. They're moderators -- they don't manage CollabNet.
Moderators (and the list owner) are closer to the list management than are the volunteers who work so tirelessly to make this list go, and whose time is so routinely wasted by list malfunction. If one is in a better position to effect change, one should use that position. You don't have to "manage CollabNet" to make better use of ezmlm - even if you do need to work with CollabNet to get changes made.
Kudos, though, to Paul for trying. I notice he got at least one "slamming" after "outing" himself. Might be why the moderators tend not to do that.
I hope you don't think that my question to him - when he confessed to just watching the seemingly endless discussions about how to fix the list, because he was tired of them - was "slamming". His comment was an acknowledgment that he knows there are problems but was not particularly moved to do something about them. Maybe I'm a tough grader, but that does not strike me as "trying", and I say that without the slightest malice; it's simply a statement of fact.
Paul did instruct me to check the archives to learn /why/ he was not moved to do anything, but that turned out to be just another waste of time, and he did not respond to my reply on that point. Both ends of that strike me as a lack of courtesy, a lack of effort (a contrast to the amazing effort you routinely see from some of the list volunteers) - but I say that, again, without malice; it's simply a statement of fact, and I sadly wish it were otherwise. No "slamming" involved.
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